Ok, so after you open on line, what to do next.Asking those stupid " I want to know you better" questions seems dumb to me.After you created intrest with your opener, what next?

1) Engage in banter. Display attractive traits in your banter and come off confident/fun.

3) Number or date close.

can you extend that no 1, please?

You need a foundation of game before you can really start regurgitating lines man...

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

I have the foundation.And i am more confortable face to face than on-line.But what can you do intresting on line after the operner.not lines.I am not asking for lines.i usually try to go into the question game.but more often then not they are not intrested in it.so give me an example on how you do it

Here's an made up DHV story that would be good online or off.......
1) you're not bragging, really. Just telling a story of what happened in your day.
2) what kind of watch does this guy have?????
3) does he always stop and look at/buy new cars????
4) getting hit on (even though by a gay guy), he must be handsome like his pics.

See how that story DHVs????

It's just made up. NEVER make crap up. But that's the kind of banter you need to use. Just sit back and come up with three to four DHV stories and write them down.....


Always, always, always look for a new DHV story in your life. These are good online as well as off.

READ the forums! People post transcripts in here all the time! Some are good, good, good stuff.

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thx man.but my problem isn t this.my problem is the moment when she doesen t ask how was your day.the moment before the opener when you got to come up with something.not a story.the moment when you do the opener she responds and then?you can t just say...oh, let me tell you a story.you know what i meen?

Good luck to you.

I'm out.

You have no foundation - or you wouldn't ask such rudimentary questions...you're kidding yourself.

This is the ONE place where you should truly be brutally honest about your game, or the lack thereof.

Think about it.

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Don't ask, just tell. Don't worry about it. If she doesn't like it screw her!

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Ok, maybe i haven't a good foundation RetiredRodeo, but the point of this forum is for people helping people.so at least tell me what is wrong with my point of view or give me yours, not just " i' m out "

Well, i am confident, but on-line what you say matters.there is no body language so i think if you say something it better be refreshing and interesting

When I reply, and you don't take it - and argue - please... tell me what fucking incentive I have to write anything?

The PUA world isn't about insulting one another - it's about being HONEST. We assess and tweak our own game EVERYDAY. Some shit works, some doesn't. When I hit barriers, I seek advice - and take the lumps as they come. I don't feel anyone is trying to anything but HELP me, so what's the point of getting mad?

You have to have a thick skin, or you won't hang. The thousands of rejections will eat you alive unless you toughen up.

You want a foundation - READ, LEARN, PRACTICE. Open 10 sets a day! You don't build that overnight, and I understand you're new... Good - Learn all you can.

But, come on, reality check - if you shut my advice down from the onset - I'll move on. There are a lot of other dudes here with great opinions... I suggest keeping an open mind rather than being so damned defensive next time.

Good luck.

RR.

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

well, i am sorry for getting defensive, or being rude, that wasn ' t what i intended to.I am onest.i' ve read alot and i am not a novice it is just that i am stuck at this problem and can t seem to come up with an answer.I am hoping to hear more punctual answers.

tease her about something about her profile. Role play or use future projection about a crazy adventure together. Make her fantasize about you. be cocky and funny and then you can end it by either getting her number, giving her yours or bouncing to another medium. There are guides here on how to do that if you want to be more specific. Just look around.