Hey thanks for the answers!

I just have two more questions for you:
1. Do you consider yourself good looking (and do women consider you good looking in your experience)? You've answered that one for me in the chat already, but people who read this thread might not know...
2. Do you ever lie to girls to appear more interesting? Do you make up story/exagerate your achievements... etc?

I consider myself very very good looking. but most don't. lol I think i am a 9.5 most think 7.5-8

Yes I lied, all the time in fact. Not so much now but back in the day, BIG TIME. I basically painted what ever picture they wanted to see.

Note: I found university girls to be the most gullible, my theory is, they have been so structured ( through out school) they have no real world experience and can easily be manipulated, and tend to fantasize about bad boys a lot. ( create the bad boy, and they are putty in your hands)

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SexAddict, trully, thank you for taking the time to answer all these questions...

What is apparent to me from your answers, is what I suspected already: you basically are a natural (assuming of course you haven't totally invented the 800 girls you slept with, but from chatting with you, I don't think this is the case).

Your answers are useful, because they show you do not have solid game. I mean, there are far better replies and suggestions to all these questions I have asked floating around in the community. Hell, even I can answer something far wittier to all of these, and yet I haven't slept with anything close to 800 girls (let alone 100).

So what does this tell me? Well, it makes a serious case for the proponents of natural game.
It shows me that looks, some bullshitting, and having sound confidence and body language is far more important than any set of routines you can learn.

In a way, you're the wrong person to be offering advice in this thread, because there are posters on here who will have a far better understanding of outer game than you.

HOWEVER, you are certainly somebody who is worth learning from... But what you have to offer to this community is: how you have managed to develop your self-confidence ; advice on inner beliefs ; your body language and posture ; possibly your style... and the type of personna you have created which is so appealing to girls.
You say you have developped a bad boy personna... This has obviously worked very well for you, and it is something some people on here might want to copy.

Basically, what would be really useful would be for you to post some infield videos of yourself... Your routines and logistics don't seem that great, but this does not matter, because what you are doing well is what is most important: you probably display great confidence, and you are able to escalate the sexual tension with congruent body language.

Finally, another thing that might be really useful to the posters on here would be for you to be able to break these things which I assume you do well (confidence, inner beliefs, body language, style) into their individual components.

Thanks again for all this.

Agent Juliet

Is this a smoking area at a bar or at a school?

Generally women that appear stuck up are not... People generalize because they are good looking. If you can treat them like you would an average looking girl, you will generally get good results.

Being friendly and polite tends to work on any woman. after you say hello, ask them their opinion on something. Women love to share their opinions.

Great line if a girl asks you for a light.

I am the light, what you seek is fire, then as you say the word "fire" spark your lighter. and smile.

Be confident when you are engaging them and you will be engaged in return.

Bars are easier then at a school, school tends to be too clique-e and a girls reaction will depend on her friends reactions.

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If you can start to see the super hot girls the same as the 5-8's you will eliminate this issue. Stick with being a gentleman and polite, at least until you have engaged them, then you can become a little more cocky, generally cocky right off the bat is hard to pull of unless you are very sharp witted and have tons of confidence.

Being a virgin can work in your favor, but do not tell a girl up front. If you become interested in a girl and establish a good rapport, telling her you are a virgin can often get you laid. especially if she things you are sweet. You can say, you have not had the guts to talk to girls until you saw her, you couldn't help but not talk to her.

If you talk to all the girls in your class as a friend, and be out going, you can eventually make moves on them. By having only intentions to be friends, you can freely talk to them and get to know them without fear of rejection. As time passes, you will be comfortable talking with them, then you can attempt a seduction. even if it fails, you have developed a good enough rapport with them that they will remain to be friendly. and you can always try again or in the least, move on to their friends.

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SexAddict911, I really like the posts I've been reading by you, you give some solid advice without being heavy on the gimmicks, you're straight and to-the-point (which is something I definitely am not), so you're very easy to understand and learn from. It's always great to see people with lots of experience offering advice and giving them the encouragement that people really need to achieve success when they first start out. Keep it up my friend!

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Some important elements I would like to add.


I love to dance, dancing is a huge part of my night game. I am also very style conscious. I dress well every day, no matter where I am. You never know where you will end up. It is my belief that one can never be over dressed.

I have a question for you. Agent Juliet.

Why am I the wrong person to be offering advice? This game does not need to be so complex, it really comes down to reading the situation. Reading body language establishing comfort and showing confidence.

Looks will always be a part of it. But confidence trumps all.

The advice I give is basic but it is not wrong. A good fashion sense and style, shows confidence, a well shaped physique, shows confidence, learning to dance well, shows confidence. Theses 3 things can be obtained by any man willing to put in the effort.

My responses to your questions may not of exhibited the "the best possible responses in your mind" or anyone else on this site but when coupled with a great attitude, a lot of confidence and a positive aura, they do in fact become the right responses.

Nobody will always have the best answers, the most witty or the chronologically best suited responses all the time. But if they are instilled with the fundamentals, they will be good enough.

What I am trying to say is, there is no specific responses or actions in this game.( at least not in my world)

You asked me what has worked commonly for me and I have told you but that does not some up me or my seductions, they are merely some common responses. if you look deeper into my responses, you will see one commonality: Confidence!

It all comes down to state of mind, and ones ability to establish comfort.

Their is no secret code, or complex mathematical equation.

You mentioned that you and others could come up with and have much wittier responses and I do not doubt this for a moment. But here is the thing, it all comes down to how confidently it is said. There are absolute geniuses that can tell you every perfect response to every question in the world when it comes to this. But! The level of confidence in which they are said, will dictate their very worth.

The biggest element in this game lies within the unconscious and ones self perception.


Inside yourself or outside, you never have to change what you see. Only the way you see it. -- Thaddius Golas.

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SexAddict,

I totally agree with your post, and to be honest, there was nothing fundamentally wrong with the answers you gave. I mean... I could nitpick (how many girls have ever called you back when you gave then your phone number for instance?) but I can imagine that when you've slept with 800 girls, who gives a fuck if you screw up one interaction...

What I am suggesting is that, when somebody has a question of the type: "what should I say in such or such situation", then there are some people on this forum who will give better answers than you. I said you were the wrong person, not because what you say is fundamentally wrong... but because you seem such a natural that you could pretty much say anything and make it work for you, whereas it might screw up somebody else's game. Take your opener for instance... Unless they are seriously confident, most guys will get themselves quickly rejected if they use that line...

But, as you say yourself, "confidence trumps all". And -clearly- this is where you shine! I most definitely would have a lot to learn from you in that area ; I think most of the people on these forums would...

What I am saying is that the fundamentals of pickup, in your case, center around inner game. Your outer game is good enough, but no more than that.
Now, if you can share what gives you that confidence, if you can break down the specfics of your body language (and this is probably the hardest thing to teach in pickup, because so much of it comes down to practice and experience) then you will have something trully worthwhile and unique to offer.

Hey SexAddict,

Have you ever gone through dry spells/times when you weren't on your game? longest time you've gone without sex?
across how many locations/countries is this number? im curious

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[quote="SexAddict911"]

Generally women that appear stuck up are not... People generalize because they are good looking. If you can treat them like you would an average looking girl, you will generally get good results.

Being friendly and polite tends to work on any woman. after you say hello, ask them their opinion on something. Women love to share their opinions.

I noticed you said this. It is a problem I am trying to get over the denial of. My night game sucks because of this. When women dress up and look good. I have a serious problem in my head about deserving to talk to them. It is all in my head. But sometimes I babble or say something that will neg myself. Always embarrassing. I think that its the way other guys look at the guy talking to the hot girl. I get anxious or stage fright. Any advice to un-fuck my mind?

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Approach ten beautiful women. Your only intention is to ask them a question and be friendly. You can even make it appear you are asking for advice about a girl you are presently seeing. Make something up. or ask a legit question that you want to know the answer to.

You need to get used to these women, you need to get used to interacting with them without feeling any fear or anxiety. There is no magic pill for this.

By changing your motives, there is a good chance you may be able to desensitize your regular physiological reactions ( fight or flight response -aka- anxiety/nervousness/fear) upon approach. And in a sense, trick your body and your mind.

It is common for people to have a set neurological patterns that are based on their fight or flight response( adrenaline release) Just like how some people when threatened physically will cower where others will be aggressive. It is set in their brain.

Just as a coward can learn to fight by actually standing up, you can learn to fight. Because these types of bruises are a little different, we are going to throw you in the ring with some head gear on.

The only way to break these patterns, is to interrupt them repeatedly.

By Approaching these ten beautiful women, with just a friendly motive and engaging them in conversation, you can get used to talking to them, see that they are not as evil and scarey as you once thought and perhaps gain some confidence and knowledge.

After 10, I promise you, your perception will have changed, I can't promise you how much it will have changed, but there will be a change, both cognitively and physiologically.

It's up to you as to how far you go. I suggest start off slow, a couple quick questions then out. By the 10th one I would ideally want you to have spent at least 10 minutes of conversation. Make shit up, you don't have to be yourself, you can create an alter ego, have a script even. Just remember, your just asking questions. Be extremely polite and let them do the talking. Thank them afterwards and introduce yourself as you are leaving. By the way my name is "cha" what's yours? Well ____ it was a pleasure talking with you, thank you so much for your input, it really means a lot to me.

This can also work in your favor down the road, lets say you had a great conversation with this hot chick, even if she's not interested in you. If you see her at the club again, you will have no problem saying hi to her and she may engage you in conversation( follow up to advice she gave you) even know its only friendly, what do all the other prying eyes think?

I would suggest asking opinions about your "made up girlfriend" This could help you feel a sort of empowerment within the conversation, plus it immediately takes away any type of anxiety the female may be having.

Attractive women get approach anxiety too. It's just a little different, they get the anxiety because of fear of how do deal with all these men approaching. Be too nice the man doesn't get the hint, be too rude, he thinks she's a bitch. By stating you have a girlfriend right away, it will help them to put their guard down as well and make the conversation that much more rewarding.


Try it out! what have you got to lose?

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Thanks for you support.

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Dry spells happen, they seem to have their own cosmic path and can happen at anytime but usually tend to be in the winter months and can last up from 2-4 weeks.

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What are the main features in your style of game?

Do you have an outline/model of what you do?

Scenario: Night, club, bar scene.

The game is different based on whether or not you plan to visit this club again. I usually always assume i will be back ( unless it is far out of town or I am on vacation)

I do not have any outlines or model of what I do, but I do have some rituals that I tend to follow.

If you arrive at the club early, it is a good idea to spend some time with the staff. Being very polite and friendly can help you later on in the night.

Even before entering, talk to the door man establish a good rapport with him, get his name. Be extremely friendly. Try to be memorable. ( this can help you in the future if you frequent the club again)

I usually always look for an attractive bartender, ( male or female) I will order a drink and then offer a very big tip 5-10$ I will then say to them, I am giving you this tip now to ensure great service from you, there will be another big tip at the end of the night. This usually gets you served first approaching the bar when crowded. The reason I look for the most attractive is because they usually have the most eyes on them when it becomes packed.( while customers are waiting for drinks) So when you come to the bar to order another drink and they serve you first, it usually makes others wonder, what is so special about you.

Talk to the bouncers, establish a friendly rapport, get their names and remember them. You never know when you may need their help. ( being seen with bouncers can often help you establish a sort of don't mess with this guy attitude from other alpha males in the club)

After I have successfully worked the staff, I will then seek out a spot in the bar where I can see the most. I spend the next 30-60 minutes observing ( I will rarely work game right away unless it presents itself to me)

I will also do many laps of the club getting myself seen and trying to establish eye contact with as many beautiful woman as possible. When eye contact is established as I walk by, I will usually smile or make some sort of positive gesture then keep walking. ( I am not approaching anyone at this time)

What I am looking for is simple tells, wedding bands/engagement rings, boyfriends, signs of interest- extended looks, smiles, smirks, attention, positive energy, dancing style, drunkiness ( too drunk is no good for my game) cock blockers...etc etc. All of these things are observed when trying to find a mark.

I will only pick one mark at a time, sure there may be 10 girls i want to work on, but i will only focus on one at a time.

A very important element in a club setting is your comfort around other alpha males. It is wise to always find friendly ones, based on over heard conversation etc. A very easy way to establish a friendship with them is to show your interest in the women in the club. ( As a hot woman walks by, observe her then look at the other guys observing her, then as she is gone, comment on how hot she was to the other men and what you would like to do to her) It's a form of mutual bonding, as all of you have the same intentions.

Never address a group of men, usually one or two men at once. Groups tend to have a group mentality and you can often be seen unconsciously as an intruder but by talking to one or two members of the group can easily bring you into general acceptance.

Easiest way to get respect from guys in a club, is to be good at dancing. Dancing is the best possible tool to have in a club setting, the better you are, the more respect you will garner. ( If you are not in anyway an alpha male, i suggest you learn to dance well) It also sets you apart from the rest. Almost any dance floor in any club anywhere in the world is usually 80-90% women. Then out of the 10-20% of men on the dance floor, how many are dancing well or even dancing period. If you are on the dance floor dancing well, you become a very small percentile, thus making you unique.


Becoming comfortable in your present setting is essential to starting your game in the right mind set. The better your mindset, the better your game.

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