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From another post i did: Ok, talking, opinion openers all that stuff DO NOT WORK, IN DANCE FLOOR GAME THE LESS YOU TALK THE BETTER, music is loud and girl are really there to dance and have a good time convo. will not work, If i were to use what you guys call opener, which i do not recommend, would be Hi! or are you girls having fun so far? or is girls night out??? But again do not talk, you do not need to talk.
Go to a place were you can go to club to club for free or for cheap, that is crucial! or a club with many many different rooms with different types of music, were you can go from room to room... Super important so you can go from set to set and from girl to girl, and you do not get burn, because after you been seen for a bit, your value lowers, plus if you are making out with a girl and the other girls see you will be hard to get the other girls... I Highly recommend a clubs were they mix all types of music, even though i notice that the hottest girls are in techno, jersey shore type music, but i do not recommend that cause the jumping around is not conducive of kino, best music, hip hop, reggeton, or regular wedding and 16 mixes...
Juice says to bump girl, that is not best effective, because shows lack of confidence, best is to dance and go up to the girl ALWAYS FOR THE FRONT, never from the back,(unless young ghetto girls), you got to approach with lots confidence and eye contact(super important, hard to do), i do not recommend smile, but high energy/happy mood., you need to be good at reading women body language, so you can eject quickly if nothing is happening, this will come with time and experience. The only thing i will agree with mystery is that your value will go down quickly, if you are seen too much, however if you are saying hi to all guys and girls and a good dancer you can get away with that, that is why i previously advise club to club, or club with many rooms...
Timing: timing is super important in clubs dynamics, lets say a club opens from 10 to 5... at 11-12.30 a lot of super hot girls, even with guys, the problem is they are not warm up, so is not that effective to open(i know you are thinking less competition), but in my experience very very few ready at that time, with experience you will calibrate club SPAM, the pick up SPAM comes after 12.30 but then usually more male competition.. the 3 second rule, APPLIES SUPER SUPER SUPER IMPORTANT AT CLUBS, hard to do even with my experience, but again the 3 second rule crucial... Gambler is now adopting to dance floor game, but for me the best advise that matches my experience is this guy [link] all that he says right on the money, i do not agree with him on 1 thing which is the dancing from behind portion...
Finally you have to always say hi to the bouncer when you go in and out, specially the door man, after 3 months of going to the same clubs doing that you will get in for free, which is crucial the more clubs you can hoop to the better more women selection.... Hope it helps...
Good post skills360, although I don't agree with everything, for example with going from the front. This a continuation of this thread:
this-is-a-dancefloor-ioi-dhv-on-dancefloor-vt95226.html
OK, I decided to try and "decode" dancefloor game... I'm in Ibiza now and planning on going out every night for the next 2 months - I'm calling it "60 days of challenge".
I'm already out every night for the past 10 days (and 3 months before that too) but now I decided to take my dancefloor "game investigation" to the next level and just try anything and everything systematically. I'm concentrating on loud club game - 100% non verbal - opening to kiss close.
This is not hard, I'm usually able to pull it off every night, but right now I don't really have a method, it's more of a numbers game / luck and waiting for the AI.... not what I would call proper PUA game.
Here are a few more random things that I observed, I hope to be able to pull everything together into a tight manual within a few weeks:
You know that your body language is alpha when people apologize to you for as little as BRUSHING you and not even touching you. I never had people apologize to me so much as in the last couple of months when I started working on my body language and inner game.
When you are on the dance floor and you take out your cell phone to "check the time" or "if you received a text message" - it's a sign that you are throwing yourself out of state and that you are too much in your head, and too conscious of what you're doing... catch yourself doing it and stop. It's a DLV too. If you're dancing and enjoying yourself there is no reason for you to check your phone every 5 minutes.
Do not go into a "dancing styles imitation" routine with your wing / friends. It's DLV. You're just displaying lack of social intelligence.
Clapping to the music in any shape or form is a DLV. Generally any movement / dancing that you are doing should be SMOOTH / wavy (in lack of better term). Any sharp movements are a sign of being socially uncomfortable. Relax. Clapping is a type of fidgeting. The same goes for dancing with open palms, when your fingers are all open and spread out fully, it reads like tension.
More girl IOI's / AI - when a girl is dancing with her friend next to you and TURNS HER BACK to the friend - she is basically "leaving the friend alone" and signaling you to come over and start dancing with her. When a girl does this you will have only a few seconds to move in. A girl would NEVER turn her back to her friend with no reason and will not do this for more than a few seconds.
IOD's are easy to read - they girl code to each other NO with their eyes (left/right movement), or with the entire head left/right, or will cross their arms or do "no" with their finger, or just throw their neck sharply from side to side once or twice.
They are NOT coding you. The girl being hit on is coding her FRIEND that she is not interested so the friend will know to grab the targets hand and move her away from you. What they also do sometimes is that the two (or more) girls will put their arms around each other to form a tight circle that you can't go into..... again, they're showing you that they are not interested. What I like to do in this case is mirror them and throw my arms around my wing... they then realize that you are socially intelligent and usually start laughing and it can even open up the set.
The reason they are coding each other and letting the FRIEND do the dirty work of pulling the target away / throwing her arms around the target etc is to reduce social embarrassment. It is the "friend" who is shutting you out, not the target... (yea... right) they help us guys "save face" and maybe they think it's safer somehow.
When you move on to a target and they are not showing any IOD - it is an IOI. So in this case - lack of IOD is an IOI. It means you can move forward... you are "on probation" they didn't make a decision yet.
Sometimes a girl will cock block and shut you down from your target even that the target IS interested... I see this all the time. This often happens when your target is drunk and the friend isn't and the friend wants to "protect" her friend from doing something "wrong" (protect my ass.... it's usually just jealousy, but sometimes it's legit)
I'm not happy with the hit and miss / IOI reading / opening every set until one hooks method... there must be a better way.
So what I'm working on at the moment is finding a method for "cold" opening sets 100% non verbally other than the "throwing a hand forward" / "move in from the back" when receiving the IOI's / AI. I'm trying to find a way to ELICIT the AI / reduce rejection using push / pull body language.
There is the "having wild dance moves while being really energetic and fun" option - this will open almost all sets at all times, but it's not my style and I guess not the style of most people and you can't sustain it for 3-4 hours. It also doesn't work with low energy sets of snobbish HBs or in a very crowded club.
I'm playing with creating empty spaces for girls to suck into to increase the IOI's that they give. I'm playing around with body language - frontal / full on dancing with the target for 5 seconds, then turning my back completely / turning to 45 degrees for 10 seconds, then going forward again... mixed results. I'm trying to figure out the EXACT way to do this.
Also about burning yourself - in Ibiza they have some of the largest clubs in the world - you can open 100 sets and never burn yourself... my comments about burning yourself are for small clubs / bars with a small dance area, where if you open one set and get rejected every or most girls will see it.
CHAT
this guy has the right idea do not agree with him on everything, specially the hand signal, but good:
(grinding and touchy)