You're dancing in spot X and move a few feet away, and some girl comes to spot X and takes up your space. That's an IOI from her. Stupid I know but I guarantee it's valid.

DHV on the dancefloor - if you dance NOT in the dancefloor but in the bar area, or some other area where other people don't normally dance - it's a "I don't give a fuck" DHV and girls will notice you. Again, stupid but not I make the rules.

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It can also be a "I have no social intelligence" DLV if you don't do it right.

The main DHV that comes from dancing is that it shows her you can move your body well, it gives the girls an idea that you're fun and you know how to fuck. Or if you Country or Salsa dancing, that you can take the lead.

Yea, that you're a good dancer is a given, if not then dancing is a DLV for you anyway and you should stay away from the dancefloor.

OK, I'll turn this into a dancefloor game post as I see it:

NEVER go into the dancefloor and start opening sets immediately. This is so fucking key... always dance and have fun for at least 10 minutes. Start talking with other guys.

Wait for AI.

Girls will dance with you only if they want to, it's not like forcing a convo by being funny and making them intrigued and opening them up. It's either on or off and they make the decision.

So just stay in one place and wait for girls to pass by and then one of them will tap her friend on the back or pull her back which means "STAY HERE I LIKE THIS GUY / THESE GUYS" and suddenly they are dancing next to you, or walk over next to your target and hope that once she notices you she will AI you.

If girls come over and dance next to you, throwing their ass at you, throwing their hair around - they are approach inviting you.

From that moment you have NO MORE THAN 2 MINUTES TO OPEN them or they will leave. But don't jump on them either - wait 30 seconds and then move in slowly two steps forward and one back and two forward and one back, not too direct.

You can go direct if you're both high energy and there is a "it's on" vibe and in that case just throw your hand at her, she will grab it, twirl her, pull her forward to you, put her arm on your shoulder, move hair with your hand, move her chin up, kiss close in 2 minutes. If at any point she resists - stop, wait two minutes and try again.

Then take her hand and isolate and game her, unless it's a total makeout and in that case push/pull, pull her hair, kiss, push, pull, bite her lips, push, grab her ass, do this for 20 minutes and then tell her you want to show her your stamp collection, grab her by the arm and leave the venue.

Be careful when you open sets without an AI. If you try to open a set on the dancefloor and get rejected - more or less every set in that area / every girl that saw it will be burned for the night. This is what they are thinking: "something must be wrong with him" "if he is not good enough for her, he is not good enough for me", "if I dance with this guy after that girl rejected him, I'll look like a loser"

(of course that for very drunk girls nothing really matters, we're not talking about them)

For very noisy clubs - this is the only method I figured... if anybody has something else let me know.

There's a lot off borderline info there.
Perhaps it's your location? I dont know but based on my clubbing experience 18-24 at San Francisco/San Jose and club in between I would have to disagree with some.

The spot x is borderline-girl will dance or move to a spot that is less crowded specially if they do not want to dance with anyone.
So if you move away from a spot now it's free space that she can dance at.

And in regards to dancing if you can move it's a plus no matter what. If you can't well stick with the two step.



There's too much waiting in your game. The second you get in a club you should open a set. If you get there early you can run your verbal game if you get there when it's dancing time I wouldn't waste time chatting up the dudes(besides it will be way too loud)

You do not need to wait for any AI. Majority of the girls are dancing WILL NEVER notice that you are there until you open her.

And diffinitely DON'T wait around in one place. Majority of the guys in a club do this and you may get lucky but for the most part your wasting valuable time. Remember you only really have about 2-4 hours depending on what time you get there.


Personally your setting way too much time constrain. When you see a girl approach her fast whether or not she has given you any IOI or anything. If you don't I guarantee someone else will.


And I completely disagree with the being careful approaching sets.
I say approach and don't get attach to what the outcome will be. Just do it.
Your mentality is off on this one. Girls aren't watching you that much if at all. And just cause a girl rejects you don't mean the girl that saw that will. Just two weeks ago I got burnt a bunch of times but I still ended up with 2 k and # close.
Just last night I got turn down for a dance and I open this girl RIGHT next to them and ended up with a # close.

My point is in a dance club it's about playing the # game. So the more you open the higher your chances of closing someone. There's too many reason why a girl rejects a guy for a dance or whatever in a club. Like not her type, she has a bf, she didn't like your approach, girls night out etc

Yea man, California is way way more open I remember there everybody just groping each other, its not like that in Europe. You can open as soon as you want but to increase results I would wait and display disintrest and fun. Also I guess it depends on your dancing style - high energy fun or more relaxed.

K and number close are useless IMO but that's a different topic.... if you want to increase 2 day and lower flake you should avoid the makeout. But maybe that's location based too... SF is so damn open and free....

I agree completely phangan. I'm from Scotland and everything you state in your 1st post is spot on.. from the IOI's, proximity signals and Bar Area dancing DHV. Girls in The UK flock if you can dance and show no interest (to begin with) also, the 2 steps forward 1 back is good advice.

To anyone reading this, I would suggest the best way to get attention is to focus on looking as though you don't care what anyone else in the club thinks.. Enjoy your wings company and make it appear as though the party is where you two are at, if you can't dance well, keep it simple! Also, I find dancefloor game easiest as it's pretty much completely non-verbal and it doesn't take long to notice the signals girls give.

5 kiss closes, 3 number closes on saturday there.
Wing got 3 kiss closes.

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Really I was under the impression that europian girls are more open.

I'm using a lot of high energy fun vibe but Im also a decent dancer.

Sf is deffinately not that open and free in a club scene. My type of crowd is more like the hood rats who actually know how to dance and actually dance with people.

And in regards with day 2 I dont care for it much.
But my mind set is this.

I start out with nothing-so I push hard for something. If she flakes who cares I started out with nothing anyways-
There's plenty of replacement for the flakes. If she's not dtf then next one.

But so far I'm at 50% If I don't f close a girl on that night.
But I escalate rather quickly though like in 1 or two song k close. But again as I said could be different places

From another post i did: Ok, talking, opinion openers all that stuff DO NOT WORK, IN DANCE FLOOR GAME THE LESS YOU TALK THE BETTER, music is loud and girl are really there to dance and have a good time convo. will not work, If i were to use what you guys call opener, which i do not recommend, would be Hi! or are you girls having fun so far? or is girls night out??? But again do not talk, you do not need to talk.

Go to a place were you can go to club to club for free or for cheap, that is crucial! or a club with many many different rooms with different types of music, were you can go from room to room... Super important so you can go from set to set and from girl to girl, and you do not get burn, because after you been seen for a bit, your value lowers, plus if you are making out with a girl and the other girls see you will be hard to get the other girls... I Highly recommend a clubs were they mix all types of music, even though i notice that the hottest girls are in techno, jersey shore type music, but i do not recommend that cause the jumping around is not conducive of kino, best music, hip hop, reggeton, or regular wedding and 16 mixes...

Juice says to bump girl, that is not best effective, because shows lack of confidence, best is to dance and go up to the girl ALWAYS FOR THE FRONT, never from the back,(unless young ghetto girls), you got to approach with lots confidence and eye contact(super important, hard to do), i do not recommend smile, but high energy/happy mood., you need to be good at reading women body language, so you can eject quickly if nothing is happening, this will come with time and experience. The only thing i will agree with mystery is that your value will go down quickly, if you are seen too much, however if you are saying hi to all guys and girls and a good dancer you can get away with that, that is why i previously advise club to club, or club with many rooms...


Timing: timing is super important in clubs dynamics, lets say a club opens from 10 to 5... at 11-12.30 a lot of super hot girls, even with guys, the problem is they are not warm up, so is not that effective to open(i know you are thinking less competition), but in my experience very very few ready at that time, with experience you will calibrate club SPAM, the pick up SPAM comes after 12.30 but then usually more male competition.. the 3 second rule, APPLIES SUPER SUPER SUPER IMPORTANT AT CLUBS, hard to do even with my experience, but again the 3 second rule crucial... Gambler is now adopting to dance floor game, but for me the best advise that matches my experience is this guy [link] all that he says right on the money, i do not agree with him on 1 thing which is the dancing from behind portion...

Finally you have to always say hi to the bouncer when you go in and out, specially the door man, after 3 months of going to the same clubs doing that you will get in for free, which is crucial the more clubs you can hoop to the better more women selection.... Hope it helps...

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