Often i have heard that alcohol is bad for Pick up. It hinders your judgement, and a lot of your actions hurt your sets. I think this is a fact, but is not entirely true.

I simply believe that within the beginning stages of studying PUA, alcohol can be a huge tool for night game. It is however a tool that i would compare to a double-edged sword if you abuse it. I believe this because when i first started PU, i over analyzed everything about everything, which i think held me back a lot. However at night when i drank a little bit and loosened up i would tend to just do more and think less which definitely escalated the quality of my experience letting me build up my PUA skills at a faster rate. You may say if you drink and do PUA you just have temporary confidence. I think that day game is when you should build your confidence, and night game is when you should do everything else because you are far more likely to k-close, or f-close at night than you are in day game, where you may n-close.

Once you are experienced in PUA, have inner game, and know a bit more what you are doing, alcohol becomes unnecessary.

Agree? Disagree? What's your take on alcohol and Pick-Up?

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Alcohol is definitely good/bad depending on the setting and you! If you are new, than it can be a great boost to your morale and confidence as long as not overdone. At this stage, alcohol will increase your results. Once I became more experienced in the field however, I've found that alcohol makes my results worse. Confidence is no longer something I struggle with, so in that regard the alcohol is useless. The main problem I have with alcohol nowadays is that it dulls me emotionally. I personally find it harder to live in the moment, to live in touch with my immediate emotions when I've been drinking even in slight amounts. Then there's also the obstacles that can arise when a new chick thinks you're just flirting with her because you've had a shot or two, amongst other things.

TLDR: If you're new, drinking helps your game. If you're experienced, drinking hinders your game.

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Every girl is different. But not TOO different.

In the end, It's not about girls.

Whats the point in taking a drug (alcohol) honestly, it doesnt make youre game better in anyway.

Alcohol doesnt make you a player, you are the player.


It takes you a few sets to gain confidence and say anything, alcohol, just gives you insta confidence, however with alcohol, it also makes you forget..... So whats the point in alcohol if you forget most of the sets you approach anyway???


Alcohol = bad

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I drink...so when I'm out I drink n game, and when I'm chillin, I drink. I enjoy getting drunk and don't use it to game better. When I am at a bar/club, I drink alot less than if I was just chilling with some friends. If I'm sarging, i drink alot less because I dont like holding a bottle n I prefer my hands free. When I first got into pua ish I didn't drink specifically to learn better, but now I'm not concerned. To the guy who asked why you would drink or take any drugs...DRINK AND TAKE DRUGS. The reasons are self-evident.

I think drinking can help you with self-confidence, but if used that way is more of a crutch. If you enjoy drinking and getting drunk, it inevitably becomes a small part of night game (because you DRINK). During day game, it is basically a nonfactor for most.

If you are starting off, DONT DRINK. Learn how to play without any crutches, and later after you have become more advanced, drink if you want or dont. Getting blackout drunk wont help you either. So learn how to drink too. Enjoy.

I personally only drink slightly when going out for pickup, one drink indeed makes me a bit more relaxed,lightens up my mood, but as soon as I have more I quickly realize that I tend to do AFC stuff.
So in my case a bit might even help, but too much does definitely hurt.

And on a sidenote, it's rather easy to pickup girls when you're the only guy in the club who's not totally wasted

It depends on what you want, if you want to have a good 'partying' night out (what most people do) and get laid whilst at it and JUST laid, this means NOT gaining confidence and the experience of learning and growing BUT purely getting laid then probably alcohol would help

Although not in my case, im too stupid and blow things off easily (even on a done deal).

But if you're here to also learn about yourself, learning to actually learn (about progressive desensitisation, journalling, handling small chunks at a time), gaining confidence and a personality then sobriety is the only way.


Its a good point though, people forget that most other 'players' and guys who meet chicks on a night out are wasted or at least drunk. so if you just wanna get laid, drinking is aiight

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I'm against Alcohol generally, especially as a PUA, if that what builds your confidence then your confidence isn't genuine confidence. Being confident isn't about thinking you are the best looking guy and the greatest PUA ever. Confidence is about realizing you have defects and your good character traits overpower your defects and that what makes you a desirable person, that you realize you are defected as much as anyone else is, and you are still confident.

True puas do not need alcohol, false sense of approach anxiety killer, it is much easier to go up to girls with alcohol involve...but what happens to true confidence for me -vote... Learn how to pick up without it... Plus what if the girl does not like guys that drinks, you are killing a segment of leads....

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Than that is NOT the girls for me

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Skills...dude, that last sentence is way off. If a girl doesn't like guys that drink, you shouldn't change for them. I am not big on lingo, but if you change who you are so that girls will like you, then you are an AFC. Everything I read, watch, and do has one condition in terms of how it impacts my life: I am myself, and that will not change.

Wearing nicer clothes doesn't change you, nor do working out. Reliable sources tell us that the body process alcohol at the rate of 1 drink per hour. That is, where "one" is set at 12 oz of beer, 8 oz wine, 1.5 oz liquor. Of course with varying alcohol contents that is subject to some change, but the point is that if you plan on going out with friends for a night on the town, 3 drinks will most likely leave you with the ability to drive legally by the end of the night if you avoid the bacardi 151.

Like most things in life, moderation is key. For me, the drink limit for an entire night is 4, and that is because going beyond that will impair my ability to interact with people and make decent decisions. Nobody likes someone who is a self-righteous prick because they do not drink, but I don't like throwing up either or blacking out. So try out a few drinks, see what works for you, and act accordingly.

OBVIOUS POINT! DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE! I have had some hilarious moments involving parties and alcohol, but when I had a car on my college campus, I refused to drive to the bar.

dj whatever, my point is you do not need alcohol to get in state, i do not drink, clouds your judgment and makes you fat, my wing does not drink either, plus is a waste of money, plus some girls do not like guys that drink... I do not recommend drinking... Drinking is a form too relax and to give you balls, WEAK.... my opinion dude!!!!!!!!

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You have ignored the point 2 people made, Skills, that you should not change who you are based on the preference of some girls. Some women are anti-drinking, some are waaaaaay too pro-drinking, and some just don't look at it as a major issue one way or the other. If you change your beliefs about the world to get into a girl's pants, game over.

Nothing is a waste of money if a person enjoys it. I have a degree in economics, and to give you a quick lesson economics is not based on money, but on a concept called utility. The easiest definition is utility = happiness. If someone gives me $5 randomly, it makes me happy. That also comes from being given a beer, an orange, or a complement on my appearance.

I won't tell people to drink or not to drink. Just never put yourself in a stupid position from overdrinking or over-anything.

I usually have a small drink of whiskey and water.
Or 2-4 beers. Nothing much. But just enough to be relaxed.
(notes:I am Italian and a heavy weight)
IMO drink to the point it's social and you feel relaxed. It helps especially when you're learning.

No do not change who you are for girls, change who you are for yourself, you do not need alcohol... identical skills looks etc: 2 clones: Pua no alcohol, pua alcohol, pua no alcohol will beat pua alcohol any day and twice on Sunday...

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My personal experience... When I'm at the club or bar, I drink. That's what most people do there. I've met some guys in pick up that don't drink at all when they're sarging. That's their personal choice. Me, I enjoy a drink and enjoy the effect.

I have been in and out of the game for a while now. Out of the game when I'm in a serious relationship. Those relationships usually last about 1-2 years. What I have found is that I have to find the balance between drunk and good time. Drunk never equals good time when it comes to pick up. So I drink to the point where I am fun, but not fumbling my words. I know my limit.

Am I fun without the drink. Most definitely. Am I anymore fun with the drink. Absolutely not. Am I more fun with the drink.. Yes.. At the right point, I am silly as hell!

The problem with drinking is that it could tip past the point of silly guy to drunk guy before you even know it. If you can find the balance point, you're golden. I've also found that I'm better at pool and bowling at the balance point.

Anyway... yes I drink when I'm out at the club or bar, but I try not to get drunk. There are times where I end up drunk and my pickup suffers because of it, so again, if you can find the balance point, cool. If not, then don't drink or only drink a little.