so i talked to 3 girls today and they all said that girls are probably just as shallow as guys are... but i don't understand i thought looks didn't matter to girls?? One of the girls said that a man's status or wealth wouldn't affect anything at all... im beginning to think that you should at least have some good looks going for you if not you must have a good social status. so is this true?

Girls also say that they never sleep with a man who they haven't been dating for awhile, they also say they don't fall for PUAs, they also say they like nice guys, etc etc. Girls say a lot of things, but actions speak louder than words.

Girls don't want a guy with good looks (although it does help). They want a guy with social proof, a social guy who everyone loves and is the center of the party. They want a guy that is confident with HIS looks but doesn't need to draw attention to him. If girls really cared about looks they wouldnt be going home with a tall guy with a big fluffy top hat, makeup and god knows how many rings. Again, these methods have been tried and tested in field. Girls, as they are being attracted and seduced sometimes don't understand why they have fallen for these guys but they have. And they still are.

What a girl says and what a girl does are two different things.


- Memento

If that were true, Mick Jagger would have never got laid during his lifetime.

looks dont really matter as long as you have solid game, but thats not to say that having good looks doesnt help, because it does

take this for example

if you arent really good looking, you have to create attraction with your game
if you are good looking, a girl may be attracted to you just based on your looks, but its up to your game to get through the rest of the phases

think about it like this also, reverse roles for a second, if an unattractive girls comes and approaches you, what is going through your mind?
-wow shes not very good looking
-hurry up and say what you have to say so i dont have to be seen with you

its fucked up, but thats what i think when really ugly girls come up to me for whatever reason it may be

girls and guys are very similar, but very different...im not saying everyone is shallow, but thats a natural trait

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I am in agreement with memento on this one. These were girls who were just saying the cliche things, and I wouldn't put to much stock into it.

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Looks don't matter, appearence matters.

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Exactly. In my experience, girls of lower value (like HB6 and less) will go more for looks - as in "good-looking" - than anything else. Or at least put a higher emphasis on that than higher status girls do. My guess is that the girls you asked were either fat, ugly, or extremely young. Besides, asking 3 girls is hardly enough to have a solid opinion on something.

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You know sometimes it is true,the way you dress and the way you look is a first Impression for most women. If you butt ugly and can careless how you dress or look and expect to get women it's not going to work. It all depends how you open up a set or approach a woman.If you can make them laugh or make them feel comfortable your in.
One thing I've notice about women they hate to be stood up.
I remember I got a number from this honey in my class last semester and I called 2 days later and she wanted to party we kept texting each other back.
I nevered text her back again,so we left at that. She never answered her phone again! DOHHHHH!!! She was a HB9 almost a 10. Dammm....

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Yeah these girls were all college freshman one just turned 18 one was ugly, fat and the other one was cute probably a 6 or 7 on a scale so you guys were right lol...i kept trying to argue with them that looks don't matter and looks don't necessarily have anything to do with attraction but whatever

Looks like any other part of your game can help. I mean if a guy is a model of course he won't need as much game to get the same women.

But looks are just one jigsaw piece... you can be ugly as sin, but be hilarious, and confident... now your up there too

Good looks can help out in the begining but only take you so far, before you better have a personality to back it up.

[quote = "xxIcexx"]think about it like this also, reverse roles for a second, if an unattractive girls comes and approaches you, what is going through your mind?
-wow shes not very good looking
-hurry up and say what you have to say so i dont have to be seen with you
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I couldn't agree more, and it works in reverse. Think of the last time you talked to a 9 who was so much hotter... until she started talking.