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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:30 pm 
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Never buy the girl a drink? People who call themselves PUA's go through a big learning cycle. they first learn to never buy girls drinks, never say please and sorry and always neg them and think its some magical new secret to get laid.

But then with experience you learn it doesn't matter if you do these or not if you have solid game.

So you then know you can use the new things you have learnt and experiences you have gained along with the old stuff you used to do, that you never thought you would do again. Like buying a girl a drink and being nice to her - but with some distinct and vital differences. Because you have been through the enlightening process of development.

So this is what I tried.

>Met a nice girl at a bar, not too crowded but not dead
>Had a short yet direct discussion with her
>When I felt that 'its on moment' I took her hand and said "im going to buy you a drink"
>Now i know from experience, girls have told me they dont like guys buying them drinks because they feel obliged to stay with them until they finish the drink, and its therefore too forced and needy from the guy - awkward.
>I bought the drink for her, handed it to her smiled and said it was nice meeting you and walked away back to my friends.

Now 'PUA's' say never to buy the girl a drink because its what every average guy does and it doesnt work.

But I bet shes never had this done to her before!

A man handing over a drink to her and not expecting anything like her time, company or to to get in her pants. It was merely a gesture of the genuine guy he is.

(although I was still expecting to get in her pants) ;)

Later in the night she came back up to me and jumped on me, saying to her friends "its that guy who bought me the drink" and was all puppy dog eyes.

AMAZING - im pretty sure no girl has ever been this enthusiastic about a guy who buys her a drink! merely just for the "free drink! yayy!" side of it.

Only catch to this. is you might have to actually spare a dollar or two at the bar, and be willing to walk away from your money (investment) but this is what is so attractive about it.


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:34 pm 
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I've never read any PUA books or seen any PUA material till I joined this site, so I cannot say that i've been conditioned to "not buy a girl a drink" because its part of the curriculum.

It's something I have never really done or intend to do UNLESS its a girl that I bring out for drinks. If i know you for a long enough period I don't mind buying you a drink because it's something casual. But buying drinks for a stranger or someone I just met just doesn't add up to me.

Don't get me wrong thats the great thing about gaming, there is definitely more than one approach to any girl. Just this one is not for me.


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:25 pm 
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Buying or not buying the drink for a girl its not that important. I have always thought that rules are made to be broken. What is important is How do u develope your game? How do you make her realize that you are not buying her a drink for her to like you?

But if you put it like this. You buy them or not?? I would say I don´t know :lol:

when they ask me to buy them a drink with out any rapport (cause I know where this is going) 99% i will not buy them any....

But talking about your method. I like it!!!!, you are coming as different of every fucking guy that she has known and you are creating Curiosity, Why does this guy didi that?

Now , yeaah, its a high-risk cause she can leave with ur money and dont see your revenues. You have to be willing to lose that "investment".
There is a phrase that says "High risk High return" and thats exactly waht happend, she came back and jumped over you and all her friends where there wanting to rip your clothes off :wink:

But again, It was all your game, the join af all parts to make this happen.

sooooo

I will test this one, nor as many times as I would like (i dont want to invest in every grl in da club , haha) but i will give a shot.

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Did she call u later on the buy her some furniture ?

Haha, well actualy inlike the technique where ungot her the drink and left ! Makes sense !
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interesting, i like the theory behind it, but i think also it has the potential to come across as slightly creepy.

i think it all depends on little things, like you said, it wasnt busy but it wasnt quiet. and i always think being that little bit different helps, too often my mates go to a girl in a bar or club with a drink already bought for her, without knowing even the slightest detail about her, and expect the drink to be a way into the convosation. whereas your method is almost like they get a drink as a reward for engaging in convo with you. its all about trial and error, i think you pulled it off well, i think others may struggle.


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i bought a girl a few drinks and made out with her a few hours later ... one big mistake guys make is offering a girl a beer , most woman don't like beer.

just get info on what kind of drinks she likes by asking her friend or whatever source. order the drink she likes and give it to her saying : i know you like this drink... blablabla

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I've only ever bought drinks for Three girls:

The first time was at a club, I was running an event, and I met up with my friends and she was tagging along. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but from what I remember, clubs are never all that difficult. I just had fun with my friends, and I went to go get a drink and asked if she wanted anything(she actually wanted a beer...lol). And I grabbed ber by the hand led her to the bar and pretty much after that we just danced and made out. I'm really not sure how it happened(Perhaps just knowing her friends made her more comfortable? DHV?)

The second time, I was out with a friend for her birthday, and she brought her cousin. I had been kinoing her all night and pretty much I just bought her two shots because she wanted to "loosen up" and show me what pornstar shots were(they really honestly taste like juice btw). We just ended up making out and I took her number(Proud moment for me. My friend bet that I couldn't hook up with a middle eastern girl as "they're not into asians")

The third and last time wasn't even buying a drink. It was an open bar. That night I just decided to get belligerently drunk. So being the charming me, I told her that I'd buy her a drink...at an open bar. She must've been drunk too because she thought I was the most charming idiot she ever met(I'm pretty sure I must've said really stupid things without any game whatsoever ie. I think those boobs are fake you should let me feel). She wanted to take me home, but her friends wouldn't let her. I ended up seeing her a week later so all that's well that ends well.

I'm not sure if buying drinks helps. I would say never buy a drink just to start a conversation. However if you've already begun building rapport and DHV's, then I don't think it would necessarily be such a horrible idea. It's only the guys who intermediately just buy a girl drinks in order to meet her that comes off as being a little creepy.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:49 pm 
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I'm not buying a girl a drink... End of story... Waste of money IMO...

I will however invite a girl to come with me to get a drink. I won't buy her one, but she's more than welcome to come with me while I buy myself one. And if she asks, I tell her straight out that I don't buy girls drinks. Maybe once have I had a girl get upset with me...

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I'm not buying a girl a drink... End of story... Waste of money IMO...

I will however invite a girl to come with me to get a drink. I won't buy her one, but she's more than welcome to come with me while I buy myself one. And if she asks, I tell her straight out that I don't buy girls drinks. Maybe once have I had a girl get upset with me...

Don't waste your money
i agree with this ... you should not invest in people unless you are sure they aren't going to flake

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Haa I've never bought a girl a drink and I never intend to. If I bought every set a drink I would be living on the streets now. There are soooo many other ways of interacting and getting the same/better results.

I like being original.


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One of the things I have learned in many disciplines is that mastering something means knowing how to break the rules as needed and still have it work. I believe this is especially true with PUA. This is essentially breaking the rules but as long as it works then that is all that matters and this type of thinking is what lays the groundwork for new theories and rules.

The approach is basically a giant push/pull, but what I don't like about it is you are essentially putting it all on the line. It's like you're placing a bet, and hoping she will come back to you, but I think more likely than not, she will not come back to you, and then you're out the girl and $5 for the drink. The sweet thing about this approach is it shows DHV and I think will pretty much always create attraction if done correctly, but I think a more traditional approach will probably be more successful.

I would like to see other people try this method and post their results. I will try it too, as soon as I get money for bars (Hey, I'm a broke-ass recent college graduate).


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>Met a nice girl at a bar, not too crowded but not dead
>Had a short yet direct discussion with her
>When I felt that 'its on moment' I took her hand and said "im going to buy you a drink"
>Now i know from experience, girls have told me they dont like guys buying them drinks because they feel obliged to stay with them until they finish the drink, and its therefore too forced and needy from the guy - awkward.
>I bought the drink for her, handed it to her smiled and said it was nice meeting you and walked away back to my friends.
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I actually love this idea, and I'm going to add it to my arsenal of options. Normally I don't buy a drink for a girl, but I think doing this could be part of the necessary push/pull strategy that works so well. You are showing interest in buying her a drink, and then immediately showing disinterest by leaving, and showing that you weren't buying her the drink just to get her to talk to you. it definitely shows "higher value" for guys who care about that sort of thing...

To the people worried that you'll never see her again - so what? If you talk to her for a few minutes and buy her a drink and walk away, and then she avoids you the rest of the night - guess what she was never in to you to begin with and you just saved yourself another good 15-20 minutes of talking to her before she gave you the cold shoulder.


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LMAO @ this dicussion.... WOW!!

Not gonna beat a dead horse. I said that I wouldn't do it, but I didn't really explain why.. Doubt if any of what I'm about to say will sink into some of your heads, but to each their own and happy gaming!

We've all read this before. Girls get approached constantly. They get hit on constantly. They have guys trying to get their number constantly and guess what? What they go out to bars, they have tons of guys offer to buy them drinks.

Pretty sure I've said this in another post, but I know girls who go out to clubs/bars and don't bother bringing one dime with them. They're on the guest list so they get in free and once they are in, they will drink the entire night free of charge. Compliments of the guys like you.

I have a friend who has a group of girlfriends. They have gone to Party City right before they went to the club and bought bachelorette or birthday crap just to get guys to buy them drinks. I see these types in the club all the time. Tiaras and sashes! Yet I never actually see them at the bar buying themselves a drink. Strange...

To the guy who bought me a drink thinking it was for my ex-girlfriend... THANK YOU.. I'm sorry that she didn't bother to tell you that she doesn't drink alcohol, but that sure was a tasty rum and coke! There are many women out there that will chat you up for 2 minutes and have you buying them drinks for their man.

You really think that buying a girl a drink and walking off is going to make you the bigshot in her eyes? Once she finishes that drink, there will be another guy sitting there waiting to buy her another one.

As I said before... Buying a girl a drink is a complete waste of money. A good drink will run you almost $10! I honestly believe my money could be better spent on something else. Like ummmm.... 2 gallons of gas??


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Any girl who ASKS you to buy a drink is either an idiot or . . . hmm. .. that's it, I have nothing else, she's an idiot.

@ the OP . . . I get what you're trying to do. You're buying a drink and making it seem as if it was no big deal, you don't want anything in return, etc . . .

The better way to do this is. . . you don't announce, "I AM GOING TO BUY YOU A DRINK!" - Ooh . . . a drink is so special! . . . Instead, just ask what she's drinking and order and pay as if it was nothing. Then you don't F off to your friends like some kid who just gave his 5th grade sweetheart a flower for the first time. You stay and exaggerate a toast. To life! To fun! To friends! Something . . . anything. Show her the fun, share a conversation . . . then F off if you want so she comes back looking for FUN . . . not another "I'm going to buy you a drink . . ."


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Any girl who ASKS you to buy a drink is either an idiot or . . . hmm. .. that's it, I have nothing else, she's an idiot.

@ the OP . . . I get what you're trying to do. You're buying a drink and making it seem as if it was no big deal, you don't want anything in return, etc . . .

The better way to do this is. . . you don't announce, "I AM GOING TO BUY YOU A DRINK!" - Ooh . . . a drink is so special! . . . Instead, just ask what she's drinking and order and pay as if it was nothing. Then you don't F off to your friends like some kid who just gave his 5th grade sweetheart a flower for the first time. You stay and exaggerate a toast. To life! To fun! To friends! Something . . . anything. Show her the fun, share a conversation . . . then F off if you want so she comes back looking for FUN . . . not another "I'm going to buy you a drink . . ."
This guy is so on point, it's ridiculous. Every post.

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