hey guys I wanted to start a thread which will bring together qualities which are universally attractive. I'll start with:

1) Confidence
2) Being playful
3) Correctly expressing your sexual desire
4) Not being Desperate
5) Understanding what kind of qualities attract women
6) Understanding how relationships work
7) social
8 ) Knowing how to have fun.
9) Non judgmental
10) honesty

Are these qualities that you have summarized in chronological order aswel?
Or is just a list numbered as such? Think you're answer through.

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Some of these aren't so much qualities as, ermm, refined PUA skills. The way I see it, when referring to "qualities" that are universally attractive, we're actually talking about character traits. There's really only one that is truly universal, that's confidence. Physical traits everyone knows, those classic signs of good health and therefore reproductive value. I mean, numbers 2, 3, 5, 7, and 8 are really better suited for more sexually open women when they're not looking for long-term relationships, while 4, 6, 9, and 10 are pretty much for the exact opposite.

Is it? Universal I mean.. and why is there only one? I can sum up a lot of different ones that are universal qualities..

Physical Traits do not necessarily have to be a result of a good health.

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These are assumptions, attractive qualities differ from culture to culture, in India for example, the white you are, the more attractive you are (wealth).

In the western world however you pretty much summed up most of the qualities, and thankfully I check all of them

No but when looking at the evolutionary aspects of physical attraction, the truly universal attributes are those that would suggest good reproductive value. Sure value has been oversimplified and sometimes incorrectly summed up by PUAs, but those core attributes have stood the test of time, namely youth, symmetry, height, and waist-to-hip ratio.

As for non-physical traits, I can really only come up with confidence. If you care to add to the discussion then feel free to sum up all those different ones, I'd be interested to hear what else could be deemed such.

Honesty & Empathy.

Just to name a few that are really important and no doubt about that they are sexually attractive. Allthough - you do not notice this on first sight.

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Heh, win above.

Mehow's "Get the Girl!" book has a nice list of about 20 attractive qualities he refers back to in his examples, can't be bothered to look it up right now though.

this is just list of qualities in no particular order. As for looks-definitely not a universal trait + some things in looks can't be changed. So I was basically trying to make a list of traits and qualities of character that are universally attractive. Any additions would be great. As for Empathy- I agree but its basically a social intelligence IMO. It develops through interactions. Definitely important though.

and this post itself helps us work on point 5

What's the point of listing some rather random words and labelling them as 'attractive'?

reading attractive=/=being attractive

the point is in identifying which qualities/traits men should develop to be more successful with women.

"If you don't know where you're going, you'll end up somewhere else."-somebody smart.

p.s. quality

11) Decisiveness

First off men shouldn't be developping into qualities that don't fit their character.
It's dangerous and also it doesn't fit those persons.

Forcing yourself into something that you're not, usually results in the complete opposite.. which is a destructive kind.

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Don't mean to criticize you, but I believe you're wrong about this. Trying to be somebody else will fail.-incongruency.

But as Zan Perrion put it:

" Being yourself doesn't attract women, being the best self you can be does."

and as Hitch said:

"You are a very changing term, you bought these shoes, you look good in them. its you."

But to make things clear I'm not saying that we should identify these qualities and try to act that way. I'm saying we have to be that way and to do that, there are different things a person can do for different qualities.

E.G. If you want confidence, go fail bunch of times, and see for yourself that its not the end of the world, or for decisiveness, drive to the town/city you never been in before by yourself and go clubbing, just going there and spending some time by yourself making your own decisions will help tremendously.

How about:
Knowing what you want,
Certainty about who you are,
Solid values.