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 Post subject: Natural view
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:44 am 
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So the other night I had a discusion with my best friend Eddy. Eddy is one of the best naturals I know and when I got back from Wednesday and Thursday party ( 3-vt85320.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 Entery: Wednesday 13.4.2011 / Thursday 14.4.2011 / Friday 15.4.2011) We had a kind of a chil out party at one of my friends house, we were on her backyard, sitting he light a smoke and we had a discusion.

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EDDY: Look dude it's nothing wrong, if you read the Game and you're doing all that theory DHV, neg or what you guys call it, but lets be realistic, how many girls have you nailed since you start doing it. NONE. I haven't read it and I'm OK.

ME: Yeah OK, you've got that right, but you know what is funny, that before nothing worked, now sometimes something hits and other times it doesn't, but at least that's something, right.

EDDY: Yeah that's good I'm happy that it works for you, but you're trying too much to pick-up girls, I mean look around, do I seem, like I go out to pick-uip girls. NO. Do I get girls. YES.

ME: OK I don't get it dude, so if you don't go out to pick up girls and you don't approach them, how do you get them then, how do you open.

EDDY: That's just it, I don't need to open, if you think of it that way, I go to this private (B-day) parties mostly right, I usually have one friend out there, that I know and he introduces me to one girl, that I start to talk to. We just talk casual, I tease her if she sais something stupid, if she goes like ''blah blah blah ahhahaha can you believe that she cheated on his BF, isn't that funny.'' I say to her ''NO why the fuck would that be funny, she cheated on his man, I don't see that funny, if a girl does that to me, I would break up with her the next minute I find out, you wanna know what is really funny…'' See that, you just need to find that balance between being funny and being serious, that's all to it. If you make her see, that you don't take yourself and others too seriously and you have the ability to talk deep when necesarry you've already done half of the wrok right there.''

ME: OK so you met one girl and then let's say you fuck it up, then what do you do ?

EDDY: What, I just have fun, do you think, I'm going to a party to introduce myself to girls, which I all respect, but half of them are so fucking boring, that you can't do shit with them. I blow out one, OK I might as well go back to my friend and say to him ''Hey buddy, who is this introduce me, let's all get a shot.'' Or if a girl that fucked up with introudes me to one of her friends and then tells me to FUCK OFF, I'll just turn around and talk to her freind for the rest of the night.

ME: Right, but I don't understand, I mean how do you get girlfriend then, I mean all you do if I understand this corectly is talk much.

EDDY: Yeah talk and being playful. Like if you look deep down into your core, what is a number one thing that you want in a girlfriend, like really THE #1 thing. You need to like her right, otherwise that's not gonna work. Well that's how you see, from the mass of girls, which one is potencial GF, if she matches your expectations and can take your shit sometimes, you make her from a ordinary girl to a friend, if you feel, that you can be with her a lot more than just friends, than you promote her from friend to girlfriend. You need to think with your heart, not with your head, cause that is the only way, you truly express yourself. If you think with your dick, you're right in the middle of the heart/head thing and I'm not saying, that is a bad thing, sometimes you need to do that also as you need to use your head sometimes, you just need to find that right balance.
After that we were interrupted, cause Katya came out and said ''What the fuck are you doing out there, it's freezing get inside.'' So we went in.
But I gave a long thought to that and I'm guessing he's right, I'm over complexing this fucking thing and sometimes even that can be good, but if plan everything out, you have like 1000 breaking points, where you fell you can fuck up along the way and somewhere along the way, you'll fuck it up and that'll effect your future game with the same girl, where as if you don't care about fucking up, you can get away with it, cause if you believe that nothing happened, than it didn't and she'll believe it too.

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 Post subject: Re: Natural view
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:20 am 
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But I gave a long thought to that and I'm guessing he's right, I'm over complexing this fucking thing and sometimes even that can be good, but if plan everything out, you have like 1000 breaking points, where you fell you can fuck up along the way and somewhere along the way, you'll fuck it up and that'll effect your future game with the same girl, where as if you don't care about fucking up, you can get away with it, cause if you believe that nothing happened, than it didn't and she'll believe it too.
Everyone has a plan, however gaming follows more detailed plans. The more detailed a plan, the more effective it can be, however if a spanner is thrown into the works it can break your plan. You can account for mishaps by having "actions on", which are methods for bouncing back. However you wont be able to have actions on for every potential breaking point in your plan which is the downside of a highly detailed plan.

Your friends plan on the other hand is very broad. His doesnt follow specifics and is based on observing a girls reaction to what he says/whats going on around her. If you are good at improvising, quick thinking and witty, then it works well. Because its broad and reactive, it allows him to handle a wider variety of situations but its harder to pull off.


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