I know this might seem like a silly question, but I am curious to hear peoples serious opinions on the merits of scaring women. To be clear by scare, I mean hiding behind something, popping out and creating sheer terror. Do you think there is a place for this in pick up? Or should this dubious act be banned?

Personally...I think its hilarious....

i don't have any official, or even moderately informed, opinion on this,

however,

my hunch right from the hip is that it's not a good idea. this is my opinion because somebody once told me that you don't ever want to associate any "negative" or "scary" scenes involving yourself with your woman. because those things will always be fixed in her mind.

keep in mind, that women walk around their entire lives knowing they could be attacked or assaulted and there is not much they can do about it. as a man, can you imagine that? fuck no, i can't. i'm a big dude and i'm fairly ripped and capable, and even i fuss and fret around large groups of thugs and shit, i get all edgy.

i think the world is probably a scary enough place for girls without their man scaring them too.

this is only my opinion though. i have nothing to really back it up, just my thoughts...

dude, scaring women? Seriously?

That's creepy.

What would you do if some dude scares the shit out of you? Instantly fall in love with him? I don't think so.

Doing this to random girls is a bad thing, but to girls you know its a good thing. And yes you can work PUA into it if you know the girl. Done this shit load of times.

Oh yeah chicks are always wanting to get it on when they have piss running down their legs or have shit themselves.

Are you a fricking nutcase or something?

OK, yeah if you are some 6'2, rippling muscled, hot GQ model who's latest CD just went platinum right after you just won 3 Oscars at the last academy awards, some gal might be willing to look past your infantile and cruel pick up gimick and fuck you.

But for an average Joe, that is just a desparate attempt at attention and a huge DLV.

Oh and just so that I am making a legitimate contribution to the thread and not just being negative - I have done exactly that back in my youth and AFC days and it pissed people off and they looked down on me more than they did to begin with and I got called all sorts of names and I deserved each one of them.

Bad idea!

Seems like it could work if you knew the audience and had comedic timing. If you don't, well, pretty dumbass idea.

If you know the girl, and the place is right, then it's great. For example, take some girls to a graveyard. After sometime, run away from them and pretend you've been possessed. While they are walking around thinking, "where did he go?" you pop out of the bushes and scare them. They should be smiling afterwards.

Think it depends on the girl. Watched Shutter Island and then went to bed with the missus, pretended to be one of the insane people on there and she started crying. Literally.

Think I may've done the part too well.

I can actually see where you're coming from.

The model we like to teach basically says that you need to have an "emotional spike" of some kind towards the start of an interaction. As Adam Lyons says, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's INDIFFERENCE. Getting her to feel an emotion, ANY emotion, automatically makes her more invested in you than if she feels nothing. This is part of the basis for the "neg" or "rapport break."

Now, I personally TRY to make the emotional spike POSITIVE - i.e. by giving them a sincere compliment with a smile. However, the process of getting in front of them can sometimes surprise them slightly, and to be honest once I calm them down by altering my opener slightly, they open up just as well as normal. So, scaring them slightly isn't the worst thing in the world.

HOWEVER. If you do it too much, and don't IMMEDIATELY transition into something and show you're not a threat (i.e. trying to rob them or worse) then they'll probably just run away screaming and you won't really be able to recover by reopening!

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after watching the grudge with my long time girlfriend, i rolled my eyes back in my head and moaned when she walked into the bedroom. she began to shake, her knees buckled, and she turned to the wall, whimpering, sobbing, and shaking, saying "no...no...no"

imagine how bad i felt!

I suppose I imagined it more the way that some of you have already described it. I intended it to be for a girl you have had a few repeat encounters with. For example, your walking down the street with a group and there are a few girls in back. You hurry around the corner and pop behind a sign before you come out and scare them.

I think beginning an interaction with random girls this way would be stupid, obviously strangers wont be attracted to me if I scare them, but if your working someone you already know, then I think that used correctly it could be a great move, especially because I like to sneak up on people and grab their sides as I scare them.