I posted this in natural game since I'm a natural so I'll post here since I'm getting no replies there...


I don't want routines, openers, magic tricks. I want to learn how to seduce a woman the old fashioned way. I want to give them that James Bond/Zorro (by day character) look where you look them into the eyes, they lock onto yours and are smitten. I've been practicing eye contact, composure and my evil smirk/grin that James Bond has where the woman falls in love with him instantly but am really getting nowhere. Yes, of course, these are movies and women seldom act this way in real life, but I believe that it is somewhat possible.

I've been natural for awhile now- I don't believe in lines or canned openers because that makes you something you are not and all you're trying to do is manipulate the woman by being someone you're not. I'm an off again, on again almost-PUA. I can give the best advice for any situation, but when I try to act on it myself it either doesn't work or I can't execute it properly. I try to "leave them better than I found them" (DeAngelo maybe?) but am finding a hard time doing so.

So what advice can be given? I walk tall, walk in command, have a firm posture and good eye contact. I have a bit of a stammering problem which I'm working on but I don't get noticed even before I try to talk. I don't peacock but I dress nicely and professionally. Once I'm with a woman it's no problem...I'm dominant but in the right way- I take the lead, take action, do the right thing and am honorable, noble and respectful to myself, elders and the women I am with.

My problem has always been getting a woman...once I get them I can usually keep them. But again, the whole point of this post is how do you take command and make women notice you? How do you truly seduce a woman? Seems like all the stuff I read on here and online is to bed them the fast way...I want to seduce a woman over the course of days/weeks, leave the woman wanting me, not just getting horny and wanting a quick fix.

Ross Jeffries

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Its not the material-----Its the Execution

If it doesn't work, then obviously you don't give the best advice for any situation. And if you don't execute it properly, you shouldn't be giving advice in the first place.

Women don't fall in love with a cheeky grin like on James Bond, so don't bother trying to perfect that.

You don't have to bed them the fast way. Instead of going for a shag the same night, just get the number and carry on seducing them from then on.

Seduction isn't just follow A, B and C. You won't find a step by step method of what to do in every exact situation you're in. Instead, you'll find help on how to build rapport, escalation ladders and how to approach women. If you need them, you use these tools in your own personal way in the circumstances you are in to go after the woman you want.
Persuasion is manipulation. Everything is manipulation. Seduction is manipulation; you are acting in a way to make her respond in a way that will get the result you want. And there's nothing wrong with that! (unless of course you do it in an immoral way, but that's a question of ethics.

As said, seduction is manipulation. Manipulation does not equal not being yourself. Having routines does not equal lying. Just use routines and openers which are congurent with you, which you know represents your inner self, you just haven't realized it before finding them. It's easier to start off with routines and later turn into a natural, then start off with nothing and saying 'I'm not gonna do this shit just be myself' and trying to pick up girls like that. But it's your business...

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What I like in life is nothing more but living it.

First of all, unless you are Brad Pitt or wear a ridiculous hat as Mystery, girls won't stop for 5 seconds and look at you as in a movie, so forget about that.

NOW how do you get girls to notice YOU


* Having a group of people laughing at your jokes or interested in a story you are telling
* Having hot girls around you
* Being the Leader of men and women
* Being Successful
* Fashion style and Confidence

Other ways that also work:
Money aka having the fancy table at a club and pay for 4 Champagne and do it the rockstar style.




Lets do a small exercise Imagine women were all Jessica Alba or just an ugly girl... but every girl looked the same. Now you are at a bar or club, what would make you notice a girl, what girl would stand out? There is your answer.


XFMAN,

“Patience, my little grasshopper”

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Did you ask santa clause?

What was the point of your post?

We all want more women if not every good looking one!

You cant get everything you want in life!

Be happy with what you got!

A real natural isnt frustrated like you are, nor do they need to come to sites like this.

That's what I'm looking for (the slow seduction). I want a slow seduction process. I don't want a quick f-ck, to bed women left and right. I want the classic Cary Grant/James Bond- slowly seducing, making the woman want you more, classic style. I've been able to bed women the same night, it doesn't do much for me because it doesn't feel like a challenge. I want to slowly seduce a woman, make her think about me constantly and build up that tension for weeks.

Looking back, the post was too much of a rant, I was having a bad day with women. I just wanted to see if anyone had any tips on how to slow seduce...txting ideas, suggestive phrases, eye contact hints, etc. I know what to do but it's my execution I need help with.