I see so many goddamn posts about AMOGing that it seems people are missing the whole point of when and how to AMOG.

I dislike canned routines and over analysis of situations, but this needs clearing up because I believe this theory post may actually help some genocidal, maniac PUA's cutting guys down and losing sets, or, more importantly, newbies who need some general advice on this topic... OR actually, anyone who struggles with AMOGs

Every guy in a set is NOT an AMOG

Most guys, infact, are obstacles. You should be seeking to befriend them rather than AMOG them. Sorry to go all MM on you here, but one thing which I think is very important when there are guys in a set is to open them first! If you hook them, you are guaranteed an under the radar entry to a set.

MM!

Remember: Neg the target, work the obstacles. TREAT THE GUYS AS YOU WOULD A FEMALE OBSTACLE.

Also: Leader of men is an attraction switch, so by opening the guys successfully and hosting a convo which has you as the centre, you are in fact DHVing. I would say it is a greater DHV than walking into a set and just cutting the guy out, but maybe thats just me....

When to AMOG

You need to come across as friendly with the guy obstacles, and therefore you should go to all lengths to avoid the need to AMOG.
WHEN SHOULD I AMOG?
Easy: when a guy is actively cockblocking you. This means actually attempting to LOWER YOUR PERCIEVED VALUE.

A guy hitting on your target when you are in a set is NOT trying to lower your percieved value, but he is if you have isolated the Target.

How to AMOG

If a guy has opened your target whilst you are in set, remember: you have been running game and are therefore more wanted in the set than this new guy is. Ask her a question or something to engage her, or even ask who he is, and ask him a few questions, before saying 'yeah your cool'. This makes you an authority and you are not cutting him out of the set. Palm him off on another obstacle. A kind of unplanned group merge. This is not an AMOG, but an interrupt so do not directly cut him down. You will DLV.

Otherwise, there are two types of AMOG in my book: Verbal and Physical. I don not count those that use girlcode because you should have treated them as obstacles and won them over. The guys who use girlcode tend to be friends of the target, see.

Verbal
The best bet is to have a few damn good comebacks. Follow this RAD technique i devised...

R R stands for recieve- you need to notice that you have been put down verbally, and accept it. The most important thing is to remain unnaffected by it. Usually asking him to repeat what he said as though you ddnt hear him will make him say 'oh, nothing' and you can carry on the set. If not:

A accept. Do not get into an arguement, because you will DLV, but you are more than welcome to agree. Think 'Yeah thats cool mate' or something along those lines. THIS IS WHERE A WITTY COMEBACK WOULD BE AWESOME.... If you're witty.

D Stands for disengage. Basically you want to do this just as you are finishing the above step. Physically show disinterest and boredom. If he tries to comeback again, say 'are you still talking? God, you need an off button mate.' Said with a great big grin on your face. You should close off your body language to him, and carry on talking to your target or group as though the AMOG was never there.

Physical

For guys this is either the most scary AMOG or the funniest. reply by seeming undeterred and use girl code.

He squares up to you
Many PUA's may frame this as him hitting on you 'hey outta my personal space man, gay bars acrosss the street'.

I wouldn't as he is likely to be either a chav or drunk. Or both.

ISOLATION
Just stand there, look at him, then look at the target, hold your hand out for her, let her take it, then walk her away from the AMOG.

IN SET
Usually he is an interrupt. The group will be on your side but probably won't want to get involved. Deal with this by asking if you know him, and what his problem with you is. Then smile and say 'oh, sorry man, hey by the way, let me introduce you to the group....'

He is just being a jock and slapping your back or putting an arm around you or w.e.

This is where you either tell him you aint into guys, or else just do the same back to him, but exaggerate it in a mockingly friendly way. Kudos to you. DHV.


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Right, that was an uber quick ramble, and I didn't really enjoy the theory because I dislike canned stuff, but perhaps for people who really struggle with AMOGs, it may help to have in the back of their minds.

Any questions, post em and either I or someone else will try my damndest to answer them.

I ignore any attempt at amog in general or when im in set. If you ignore them, they look lame as they cant even get your attention.

If im in a situation where i cant really ignore it or im not holding the conversation, so you sorta have to respond, i just laugh. When you laugh along with them then the frame is that everyone is having a joke. If you don't laugh and get offended then BAM your insecurities have been shown.

-this is credit to a newsletter from Jeffy on rsd, which blew my mind as i was going through the exact thing. I was seeing some people in my lessons as unfriendly BECAUSE i was insecure about how they were responding to me. I straight away reframed it all and started being cool about it. Now we're friends (this was with quite a few people in different classes). that one message always sticks with me and kicks me back in place whenever i feel defensive or paranoid.

You can be cocky funny as well or even just say "who the fuck does this kid think he is!" that puts them in the frame that theyre the boss and they usually cannot hold that frame and look like pussyholes! (i learnt this from a friend who is a leader guy, a long time ago)

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I love this!!

The rest of it I aint too sure on, because I have tried ignoring them before hand and the group kind of loses energy, or laughs at the AMOG, who has then DHV'd. I have found you get much better responses with what I wrote above, but, then again, I suppose it very much depends on your personality.

Seriously though, the bit I quoted was fxin golden mate, loving it =]

Agreed 100%.

This post, however, is directed at those who aren't as confident with toher guys as you. Think the geeky kid who gets pushed around a lot. He isn't suddenly gunna feel comfortable totally ignoring someone, approaching direct or out and out bashing the guy.

Usually it is a case of inner game, agreed, but if it's holding you back, then this post will (hopefully) help people become more confident with other males.