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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:26 pm 
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Hey guys,it just struck me today as I was replying to another posts.

What strucc me?

Ok,a little note:

I seen a hot girl the other day(HB8.9 teacher).

It happened that a female friend of mine knew her also(they teach at same school).

So I asked my female friend for the HB8.9's name so I can look her up on facebook.

So my friend gave me her names but she said to me:"She'd never get with you because she love her boyfriend a lot[Despite only being together less than a month]".

I was a bit discouraged but...

I sent her a FB-friend request 2 day ago but she never accepted yet.

Note:She passes my house 5 times a week as she goes and comes from school(work).

So I seen her passing today:

Me:"Hey I sent you an fb request how long and you haven't accepted yet.Im gonna have to punish you[Said playfully with banter & smile].

She:"[With a smile,she stops infront my gate a we chatted]Nah,my laptop isnt working so I have no access lately[My BS alert went off,but she seemed genuine].

Me:"It's 2010,every girl has access to FB.Plus dont you live near an internet caf¨¦[I fount out that her landlord owns a Christian-internet caf¨¦ on the same property of her house]"?

She:"Yea but I like using my own stuff instead of relying on others".

I left it there because I noticed she was body-rocking out also as if in a rush[she was heading bacc to school from break].

Guys who know nothing of social dynamics(most of us-lol)would have kept rambling on while the girl says to herself,"this idiot doesnt realize I have to get to work"?.

So I let her leave then & there.

But I noticed something here guys;just from that 1 minute chat[1 st.time we chatted],but I'll get to it soon.

But it so ironic how open he is and willing to chat.

She wasnt shy,stanoffish and she's pretty social.

But my female friend who'd given me her info(to reach her on facebook)said that this HB8.9 would never ever talk to any guy(me)because she loves her BF too much!!!

My friend didnt say that to me because she's jealous and wants me.

She said that 'cause society seems to believe that taken women cannot be gamed and they some how cannot be attracted to another guy.

It's like AFC's who'd say that,"She has a BF so it makes no sense to game her(lol)".

But just from the 1 minute chat with the target(HB8.9 teacher)I know that she's TOTALLY gameable!!

AFC's and Newbies cannot feel this nor see this.

Only guys who are seasoned in social dynamics can SENSE this.

From checcing her body lang' and the vibe(within 1 minute),I knew that this girl is DTF,gameable,and down.

Have you ever spoken to a girl(target)and you can just sense & feel that only if you ramp it up a bit,you can lay her within 20 minutes?

Well,Newbies & AFC's cannot feel this at all.

I guess it comes with time and trials.

But I jus know that this chicc would hit BT(buying Temp')within 5 minutes.

Yes,this' the same girl that I was told would never give me the time of day;because she's taken.

But as a vet in pick up,I "sense" that I can lay her in 10 minutes.

I feel it.It isnt cockiness nor confidence;it's the vibe learnt through experience,being rejected,flaked on,etc.

I can now sense within 1 minute,which chicc will flake,which will be all-out resistive,and which I can lay.

But 6 months ago,I could'nt feel this nor see it.

Now,Im not saying that just because a girl is polite and friendly means she will sleep with a guy.

When you're seasoned,you can just FEEL this.

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Take your laptop, get on your facebook delete it, then throw your laptop off the a bridge!!
WTF really???

Its fucking facebook who gives a shit.
First off its facebook
second why would you ask for someones facebook that you dont no
third if she passes your house so much why did u not just talk to her when she does before this incident
fourth facebook means virtually nothing
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Guys who know nothing of social dynamics(most of us-lol)would have kept rambling on while the girl says to herself,"this idiot doesnt realize I have to get to work"?.
If she was interested she wouldnt have body rocked and made another minute for u or said I have to go but here my numb/hit me on fb/anything. It looks like youve read/ saw some vids on body language 101, and then u rationalized a whole bunch of shit from a 1min chat full of small talk with a hint of neediness(facebook friends still i am wtfing rite now)

Alrite the bashing was excessive but really man heres a reality check.

Happy gaming otherwise, I hope this small talk was not u being seasoned no pun intended

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Lol Facebook a girl that passes by ur house 5 times a week... And second of all ur getting way ahead of urself wiu those assumptions, u need to learn to make coherent paragraphs first, ur post was such a pain to read and u repeated the same things over and over... Cmon dude I have no idea what the point of this thread even was


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this reminds me of something called a waypoint, the point where the girl knows she's going to go home with you, and it seemed like you weren't at that yet, so i don't think the assumpsion "i could of laid her in 10 minutes".

There are no rules for the game except the ones you make, but i like the philosophy, i weill keep that in mind next time i hit ona girl with a bf and get beaten to a puddle, no but seriously its a legit post.

Thanks for the info-BenG

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this reminds me of something called a waypoint, the point where the girl knows she's going to go home with you, and it seemed like you weren't at that yet, so i don't think the assumpsion "i could of laid her in 10 minutes".

There are no rules for the game except the ones you make, but i like the philosophy, i weill keep that in mind next time i hit ona girl with a bf and get beaten to a puddle, no but seriously its a legit post.

Thanks for the info-BenG

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Thanks for the prop BenG-appreciated.At least you get the philoophy and moral of the story.

Twisted66 & Jelly,I was basically pointing out my observtions in this case.

The point of this post was to shed some light of the internals and inner game.

I dont need to lay any particular girl.

After the lay then what???It's too simple!

Im not the braggy type so it's not lkie if I lay this girl I'd write a lay-report post.

After I lay a girl,Im saying to myself,"WTF"?Is that all to it?

So I can appreciate a ride/the chase and resistance to make the PU more worth wild.

Im at the point in game where my prime objective is NOT to lay any specific girl I may game!!

I'd rather have good times with chiccs nowadays,flirt,chill,eat ice cream off her stomach,make her pussy extremely wett then end her home to bang her BF or some other dude(lol).

I'd rather,and I have been doing those things rather than aiming to lay a chicc within 2 days,then the thrill is over!!

Cant yall comprehend that Jelly & Twisted66?

There comes a point in this where fucking different girls weekly for years gets stailed out!!

I deliberately make picking up girls a challenge.

Im totally care free because Im not hell-bent on a fucking lay.

And when you adopt that frame(care free),that's when you'd start get more lays(lol).

I dont actively # close girls,especially ones Im bound to see again.

If yall followed my other past posts,yall would've noticed that I dont rush for # closes.

There comes a time where every guy on here will begin to go through what I've been;unless you're a horny bastard.

My favorite dating coach is Tyler Durden.Most of my game I'd learnt from reading online-seduction articles(years ago till present)by TD.

I only read a bit of Style's "The Game"(just last month-lol)and there was a few lines where Style was saying that TD doesnt lay girls.

His motivation wasnt to lay every chicc as time passed.

Tyler loved the trill of the PU more than the lay.He could've laid many girls,but it wasnt fun enough.

I've been at that point in my life over the past 10 months or so guy.

If a random hot girl spreads her legs wide open and say,"Fuck me":I wont.

Too much of us in the game are horny bastards dying for lays just to brag.

I was the same way too when I first started out;a wild-horny bastard.

Now,a girl has to put forth drama,effort,resistance,fight...in order for me to want to seduce her.

A woman doesnt appreciate men who fall too easily.

I neither appreciate girls who're not super challenging.

In relation to the current girl Im gaming:

Yes,she passes by my house every day to work.

But that's too simple.It's like having a fucking trophy handed to you without having to work for it-it means shit.

I'd rather compete for this prize(not saying the girl's the prize,but the experience is).

So I opted to game her online instead where she can resist,not reply,put me on hold during chats,and be a bitch.

'Cause I know in person,I'd break this chicc down.And how fucking fun is that??

I sensed this within a 1 minute chat.

It's easy for the target to resist and blow you off online opposed to face-to-face.

And I know once a chicc just cracks a smile my way,she's gone(if logistics decent)!!!

I have no probs' going KINO early on any chicc.

If any girl stops to talk to me-it's on.That's all the IOI I need.

The facebook small talk was just a fucking bait to hook her guys!!

I dont give a shit about FB,but I used that opener to reel her in.

It wasnt an exquisite opener,but what made it work was the assumption factor.I assumed by saying to her,"I sent u an FB request and you havnt replied".

Now,people aim to please others.No one wants to offend.We are societal cowards.

I assumed she was being a bitch and impolite for not adding me(a bait).

Now,no chicc wants to be perceived as a non-social bitch,so she was obligued(by social pressure)to redeem herself and prove to me that she's not a bitch who ignores people.

So what did she do once I said that(jokingly yet firm)?

She stopped,smiled,try to please me(a stranger),faced me(not away)...

Im a stranger,she owes me no fucing explanation!!

But she explained herelf!

Guy,dont yall realize that's the ultimate IOI?

Once anyone or a woman tries to please a stranger(me)or explain herself,she's in essence already fuckin laid!!!

She's giving the most important IOI-compliance.

At that point,or from here on(as long as I remain alpha),I can do as I please with this girl.

So when I'd written that I could have this or that,and that I knew she was gameable & fuckable within a minute(the SNL-same night lay type),I wasnt speaking from cockiness nor hiding behind an insecure "could've been" AFC frame.

Once again,the best way(I've field tested this many times)to know if a chicc is DTF or open for the lay is by dishing assumption openers at her like I did.

If she's attracted,she will hook and seek to resolve shit.

If she doesnt like you,not attracted,and stuck up,then she wont even look(lol)!!

She'd suck her teeth,turn away or something to make it clear that she isnt gameble or you'd have to try harder.

But if the fucking chicc responds,stops,look,smile and explain-it's on!!

That's all the IOI needed.

Lastly,this' what Im gonna do whenever I see her passing again(since I have compliance):Im gonna open my gate as she approaches(every 3:30pm),with a playful smile,Im gonna take her by the hand and pull her onto my porch while saying something like,"You deserve a spanking you know that"?

I've done this many time in field where I'd pull the girl into me,or just take her hand(in club)and lead her to cooler spot.

I've never had a girl pull away nor resist this alpha technique[I'd learnt this from watching 1st.season of VH1's pick up artist/Mystery].

If I'd tried this as an RAFC or as a newbie to game,I would've got smacked(lol);no calibration,incongruent and suffering from AA!

So guys,critics are cool but WTF is there to critique about me saying that my game has advanced?

Yes I still suffer from AA at times(rarely),but once I dish my opener,I cant be stopped.

Lastly(lol),I have to credit these dating coaches whose stuff I'd learned online and used since about 2005:TD,Swingcat,Mystery,Thundercat,Juggler,AFC Adam,John Alexander,JLaix,Carlos Xuma,Love Drop,Mehow,Matador James,Mcmaax,Braddocc(Love Systems),David Wygant,Gunwitch,Sinn,Vin Dicarlo...

And more recently:Art of charm guys,Spear,Vince Kelvin,Dj Fuji...Too much to mention.

I've used and studied materials,routine,openers,philosophy,etc.from reading those guys stuff.

But what skyrocketed my game was after reading Vin Dicarlo's escalation ladder article few years ago. It's a step by step guide to KINO escalation and how to escalate.

I remember field-testing it years ago with major success;I had 2 ONS back to back weekends in a club.

So I've came a long way,and it's only within past 6 months I realize that Im fucking good at this.

Isnt that a long time?

I've been studying PU since 2004 I stumbled upon the community.

And it is just now last 6 months that I sense I can read women.

Isnt that being humble?

No offense,but some guys just fount the community last week and want to pretend to be gurus and brag about lays!!

I've never written a lay report,yet I've laid so many women that it amazes me.

I've been in this non-stop since 2004 and I still dont think Im worthy to advise guys.

Isnt that humble?

So guys,instead of criticizing my insights on game,just sit bacc and learn.

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Dude, you really gotta learn how to use paragraphs.

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Hey Spexxx,Im posting from a mobile,and some how,Im not able to split my sentenses.

But isnt that minor(lol)?

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I enjoy your posts k-loc and your far too intelligent to type like that as 'normal' and I also know some fecking mobiles do that, so take no notice of the numpties, or just add a disclaimer *from mobile* or some shit to appease them!


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I dont want your history of pickup. let alone a lecture about some shit you think you know.
I want to know why the hell you'd post some small talk with some women??
I have better stories of breathrough awesomeness from last weekend than whatever this shit is

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not for nothing, but i understood k-locs entry just fine. i can't say that within a minute i'd know if i could lay a girl, but i definately believe u could tell very early on whether somebody is gamable. i'm not sure why ppl had to make this post about bragging rights. everybody has their own reasons for joining the game, and many often change their goals many times throughout their journey.

k-loc is is talking about how the internalization of field experience, practice, and dedication has given him a heightened sense or awareness that he didn't have before. whether or not u believe he has this sense can't be debated unless u know him personally and have seen him in the field, let alone were present for this particular interraction. but none of u that have stuck with it at least for a while can deny that the game has helped ur awareness/senses when it comes to male-female interraction. so why would u doubt that he's reached this level? and more importantly, why do some of u seem so angry abt it?

anyways, my loyalties lie nowhere except for myself and my own game. all i'm saying is i understand k-loc's post and what he's getting at. not sure why anybody else would doubt it. not sure why anybody would WANT to doubt it. good luck with ur epiphany k-loc. i'm having a few of my own recently. good luck everyone, and game on.

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everybody has their own reasons for joining the game, and many often change their goals many times throughout their journey.
agreed
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whether or not u believe he has this sense can't be debated unless u know him personally and have seen him in the field, let alone were present for this particular interraction.
I am doubting it bc the interaction he has posted is so pointless. Good for you K-loc that your awareness has increased.
I've just been annoyed by reading various threads the past couple days. just threads that shouldnt have even been posted like this. If someone posted I got laid I'd say hell ya but this was just a daily interaction that every person has and he does not if he could bang her bc he has not. Actions mean something, words do not

If K-loc would have then said I got her number and then progressed it farther I would not have doubted it.
The fact is I'm mainly annoyed bc of facebook and why in the world would you try to pick up on their and then to ask her why she hasnt added you.

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Thanks for enjoying the post Biggus;I'll have to contact my mobile provider in order to appease some ppl for real(lol).

Now Jelly,what do you mean Im talking about shit I "think" I know!!?

Why so negative dude?

Your pick ups are more awesome;cool for you!Post them so I can learn.

But you're missing the boat & the big picture on this one.

It's not about how I can get a girl.It's about my progress and how I now get it.

Finally someone who gets it Jazestix;thanks for recognizing the point and for re-iterating what I was expressing.

I dont know either why anyone(Jelly)would hate on any guys progress.

I can now see the finish line clearer just to make things simple for the haters.

It took years.

Anyways,thanks again Jazestix for being on same page.

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Yea your rite I was being negative. Just didnt make sense to why u posted it at first. it cleared up.

Was not hating on your progress it just seemed by what you were posting seemed so not amazing that it seems unlikely to have your game progressed that far.
It was negative and my bad just couldnt understand

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Wow,an apology from Jelly(lol)!!?

I wasnt expecting that.

It's all good though.

I dont see anything wrong with posting daily interactions.

It' not gonna be stunning all the time Jelly.

In fact,checc out my other post about this same HB 8.9 teacher Im currently gaming:yes,the same chicc Im saying I can bang if logitics were decent.

In fact,Im not the internet-gaming type;I hate online game.I wrote a post month ago about hating it.

It was just a smoke screen to reel her in.It's fucking "chicc crack"(anything that gets a woman interested).

Women love Facebook,so what better opener to come with than one based on FB?

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