Once you reach a certain point, I believe the friend zone is non-existent. If you have unlimited attraction potential worrying about the friend zone only blocks your own light. A woman can't choose to put you in a friend zone, she does so when she sees you as esmaculated. She does so when you display that she has higher value than you. If you have developed your inherent value then it is impossible to be in the friend zone. A real value man doesn't go around all emotional and displaying his interest over and over again either subcommunicated or directly communicated.

Even if you start off as friends, eventually she will become attracted or you won't become invested. That is the key here. You can't be friended because you aren't friend material. You won't be listening to her bullshit and supplicating to get her to like you, the number one thing a friend would do. You won't be buying love, another thing a friend would do.

I just think there is so much emphasis on the friend zone but it is really a misunderstanding of what a friend is. A friend is someone that has zero masculinity and zero attraction potential.

Start viewing the friend zone as a mere obstacle. I actually have grown to love being friended because it says this girl is resisting my attractiveness for some reason. She wants to be friends because it makes her more comfortable. Eventually she will be attracted or I will move on fast.

Pick women correctly. Pick ones that you can tell would be attracted to you and let her friend you. Let her feel comfortable with what type of relationship you have. Never act like a friend and you will never be one. You will be a guy who she considers a friend who clearly is attractive and therefore is a romantic possibility. You will always be a romantic possibility to women eventually. There is no other way once you really internalize all of this inner game. She can't possibly keep you as a friend if you have high value. It is impossible and simply a rationalization of the truth.

You get friend zoned because you act like a friend. You get friend zoned because aren't even slightly attractive to HER. The only way you could be unattractive to a woman is if you BEHAVE unattractively. If she "just wants to be friends" I always say great, I think friends is great for us and leave it at that. Then I just withdraw myself completely from her while being warmer and more charming than I ever was. Eventually she chases me. A girl chasing a friend? I'm not a friend. I never will be a friend and get that friends don't exist. Let's just be friends means you are not attracting me. For me it simply is a gauge of this woman's response to me and not a permanent label.

I used to be in this boat and I realized that I blocked many friendships that would have evolved into attraction only if the girl got to know me. She would see through behaviors that I am an attractive man with masculine power and therefore end up being attracted. So long as you master yourself it is impossible to be in the friend zone. Even if a girl calls you a friend, if you have real confidence you will know that this is only temporary.

On the other hand, you will get put in the friend zone if you:

1) Put her on a pedastal above all other girls and make her your prize.
2) Don't focus on total self interest above all else.
3) Express weakness or supplication.
4) Express interest at the wrong times.

At the end of the day, the level of friendship you receive from women is just a measure of your lack of social skills or lack of understanding as to how women work. So when you understand your behavior and the powerful effects that it has on women, no women can put you in the friend zone. It's impossible because you won't chase. If you aren't chasing then she will be. If neither of you are chasing you just fizzle out and become nothing. A man who understands women will either be in a sexual relationship or nothing at all. There can't be a friend zone because you aren't going to be her friend to supplicate and get her to be attracted.

I think guys get friend zoned because they aren't attractive not because of what they do. If I were to be at the top of my game and did the same thing as some guy far less attractive women would friend zone him and chase me because I manipulate them.

Why does manipulation come with such a bad connotation? Women are almost entirely manipulation, some for malicious reasons some not. There is such thing as manipulation with good intentions. That is the difference between a friend and a powerful man. A powerful man manipulates because he realizes that his intentions are far more honorable than hers. He manipulates her to fall for him far more than he falls for her because he knows that he will use this power for good. A friend thinks manipulation is morally wrong. He doesn't realize that a guy who chooses moral high ground over creating intense attraction ends up alone. Is being morally correct really worth that much?

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Agree agree agree. This actually applies to a situation I had with one of my exes: she eventually friend-zoned me, but now we're no longer friends because she's lost interest.

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Once I get friend zoned by an ex, we are done with each other completely. 90% of men will think "Oh, alright, we can just be friends for a little bit a get back together later." They stick around, try to change her mind through their behavior and it never works. I pull FAR, FAR away and more often than not she comes back around to test my interest in her and validate her. I never validate her and in fact I flip the script.

I tell her, you were right, we weren't working and I like us much better as friends. Then I just never let her back. I can't tell you how much this bothers exes. I never validate her and never consider getting back together and always end with the power.

I am only concerned with power and I keep it over every single women in my past eventually. In time, that power will come back to shift and the morons validate her and then they become even more unattractive to her. I pull her in every single time. I manipulate her need for validation and grow it into a desire to get back with me. Once that desire grows strong enough she communicates it and I reject her, Tell her we should just be friends and then I have all the power once again and become unlimited.

HB: Let's just be friends.
ME: You're right we don't work together.
-DONE, never hears from me again, don't answer calls, don't answer texts, become a ghost.

Months later.
HB: Hey, just was missing you.
ME: Hey, I think you were right, I was thinking the same thing, I just didn't feel the same way about you anymore.
HB: You don't?

-DONE, maintain my power indefinitely.

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