Well my gaming is about as consistent as my golf game, sometimes I hit a birdie and other times I am cashing my annual allotment of Mulligan's. Anyways, not sure how to get over this thing but every time I go out to a club and I approach girls or have them come back to the table to have a drink and usually have that initial attraction from them but it soon fizzles out. Maybe because my conversation lack a certain spark but what do you guys do out there to keep the fizzle going? Are you bringing up provocative subjects? Are you neging her? I need some advice on this. Its killing me, I am a good dude I am pretty successful but I am not sure I am approaching with the right mindset or conversation.

Well mate, cant really help you unless you can be more specific.
What is your sticking point exactly?

Are you sexual enough? Do you convey interest?


Otherwise all i can tell you mate is to start studying more PUA material and get out there to practice.

Of course the attraction dies off...they gave you the initial attraction so you would have them back at your table for a drink. Once they got their drink(s) they stopped pretending to be attracted. Girls will do this all the time to get free drinks. Stop providing for them.

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Maybe you're approaching with an incorrect mindset when it comes to prolonging a conversation, or rather you're sticking on the surface too long hoping it settles into a comfort zone. I have found that the approach and the opener/mid game area is best served to quickly pinpoint similar interests and then from there you can take the conversation deeper while increasing the sexual vibe and eventually ending with a more fruitful close. If you don't have multiple interests now is the time to develop them, and if you do, stop focusing on the attraction so much. Personally I've found that vibing with some good conversation is a better pull than trying to figure out physical steps. After all, when you develop an emotional connection with a woman sex is a natural byproduct of the evening as a whole. It isn't about the end, rather it's a journey which we share with the women who are lucky enough to spend an evening with us.

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Haha yeah I invited these two broads back to the table and one was nice while her friend was a little skittish. After I made them drinks one trifling beaauch had the balls to give me an excuse that she had to go talk to her guy friend. Her other friend that was there looked at her and ordered her to Sit Down! Can you imagine the balls on some chicks to do this but anyways I thought it was funny! Oh and the one that wanted to leave was at best 5 haha while her friend was a 7. At least the 7 had the decency to stay a little and conversate. By the way I invited these two ladies back to the table not because I wanted to game them but use them more to give of DHV to the rest of the ladies in the club.

Anyways to stay on the subject, on my drive home from Santa Barbara I finished reading Mystery Method and some light bulbs went off. Basically, what I got out of what he was saying is come up with tricks, gimmicks or just ways to get their interested sparked in the first few minutes of the conversation. He mentioned things like the guessing game where you lay out the rules and you trade asking questions of one another, the other one was Marry-Shag-Kill and that is while sitting with her you pick out three people in the crowd and ask her who she would marry who she would Shag and who she would kill.

I think things like that make the conversation light and keep it fun and interesting. He also said to not make it like an interview and start asking bunch of questions because it appears to try-hard and that it seems like you are trying too hard to build rapport. I found this stuff to be quite interesting because other variations of them have worked for me in the past. I guess the methods of the game cannot be neglected or I feel like I start to lose my skills.

I am a very social person and I enjoy talking to people, I usually start conversations etc. But I think the biggest difference when you are gaming ladies is that they have the Anti-Slut Defense shield up and those needs to be taken down with some cleaver gaming. Anyways thanks for the responses!