It seems to be since I started my PUA journey about 6 months ago that a girl I would have considered a 10/10 back then I now only consider say a 6-7.

Ive reviewed about 5-6 girls I back then thought were 9-10 and now I could honestly only give them a 7

Is this normal in the PU community, obviously my standards have taken a rise and I can pick out insecure girls now, it seems also those girls that were the 'bitches' are suddenly HB9s and attainable, wierd stuff

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'Nothing is impossible to a willing mind'

I can see why you think that, you know you are capable of alot better

this is problem?

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Every Saint has a Past, Every Sinner has a Future

No its not that there is a problem, more of an observation. The thing I realise is back in the AFC days my mentality was these girls were the greatest, I couldnt do any better when in reality I was clinging to whoever offered me any form of affection or gratification, perhaps the thing that is more concening is I was 100% oblivious to it.

I was just seeing if guys have had similar experiences.

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'Nothing is impossible to a willing mind'

Ha yes Ive noticed the exact same thing. I liked girls who werent bitches but I then found out that they werent bc they had major problems and were insecure.
The bitchy girls no longer seem bitchy just some girl that has a shield to ward off those pussy guys.

More importantly this PUA experience has allowed me to see that girls arent crazy or bitchy bc they just are. They have some emotionally based reason why they acted crazy and in their own mind it made sense to them. And that almost all girls are like this,

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Inner game is the core, outer game is just an expression of it

PU is lowering my opinion of certain PUAs...


Not directed at any of you guys.

But an observation. The more you understand and know about something, the more it loses its magic. If you know how a magic trick is done, it isnt as fun to see anymore.
If you see that the 10s arent completely perfect, look bad without makeup and have internal issues, they arent 10s anymore. What is a 10? A girl who has got it all? In that case there are no 10s, nobodys perfect...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Exactally right Ezo.

For me personally, when I started out, I would say I was more likely to factor appearence over all else.

Over time, and with the study of PUA, you gain a knowledge of human social interaction. With this knowledge, it's been my experience that desirable company has become more than just appearance. If they look good and aren't at the same level as you are, they becomes boring to be around.

However the standards in place as far as appearance do not change, there are just additional requirements brought into play, making what was once a 10 (based on looks) seem much lower (6/7), since they are missing something that you have discovered desirable, and likely in someone just as attractive. They don't drop into the "no thank you" category though, as they are still good looking, just missing something key.

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Mimicking an artist never leads to true success... However becoming an artist mimicked is true success