All right so is it impolite to not look at someone when their talking to you 100% of the time? Or is it just alpha to look at someone for 2-3 seconds then look around the room during the conversation? I believe that looking at someone 100% of the time can come off fucking weird. So for you PUAS out there how do you hold your eye contact in the most attractive way with the person your talking too?

Thanks

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Cut the shit, time to fuck.

I listen, I watch and I give extremely strong eye contact. At the same time I'm not just staring, but I'm not going to feel uncomfortable from looking someone in the eye.

The thing is, you have to do what is right for the conversation. What feels natural is probably right, as if it's funny you sit with a smile and laugh... and if it's more serious or more of a debate, you judge what they're saying both verbally and visually.

In the end, what comes natural is probably the best bet unless you're obviously fidgety and weird. I'd like to be less general than that, but it's difficult since there's only so much I can portray via forum.

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-Fortune favors the bold-

It's lower status to avert your eyes. But also, if you look at something, it raises that object's value.
If you're talking to a girl, look at her more when she earns it. It's like a reward. Give her more attention. Don't give her full attention if you've just met.

Once you know a girl, if you can look her in the eyes and she is the first one to break eye contact, then you are more alpha.

Notice that long ago, when you and I were AFC, if you were in a busy bar and your eyes met another girl's, the first instinct was to break eye contact. Well, that's the wrong thing to do. A real man looks at what he pleases. If her beauty is pleasant to look at, feel free to keep looking until she breaks eye contact. This, of course, presupposes that you're doing everything else right.

It can be very intimidating / uncomfortable to give a person 100% eye contact.



break the eye contact every now and then just to not overwhelm them/make them uncomfortble (in a bad way).

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Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Yes, long eye contact can either mean intense hatred or intense love. But isn't the other person always free to look away once it gets uncomfortable? I'm asking because most things don't bother me as much as they bother other people...so it's hard to put myself in someone else's spot.

Its a very powerful tool...

You look at them and they feel that they are getting your attention. You let your eyes wander and they feel like they are losing you.

Call it a very very fine neg...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Yeah, but the point is, you don't want them to feel uncomfortable. Not in a bad way.

When I say uncomfortable I mean 'uneasy'... you don't want them feeling intimidated or weirded out by your over-attention.

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

honestly, from my eye contact skills...i can usually let the girl know when im totally 100% interested by looking at her 100% of the time but...most of the time you dont want to do this...depending on the situation..clubs no..dinner/coffee yeah might be a good idea

its fucking wierd your correct, a girl doesnt want to know your staring deep into her soul/falling in love with her the first time you meet her but she doesnt want to think your some ADD ass hole who doesnt pay attention rite. And really a little arrogance to look around and scope other women might even add to your favour to tell her hey babe your not that important get over yourself but im here talking to you so take me while you still can. And if she leaves you dont feel like such a doche for giving her your 100% attention cause if shes planning on leaveing she will either way.

For me it would depend what stage I am at with a girl with regards to eye contact..

If Its an opener I will hold it and be strong and confident not stare at her like a creepy guy, strong eye contact with a smile on your face comes across as confident...

If you want go from right to left, personally i always tend to hodl eye contact with the other persons right eye.... I do this naturally, but Im sure i remember reading somewhere about different sides of the brain...emotions etc.... but to be honest i wouldnt think too much about it.... if someone is talking to you i would try and make as much eye contact as possible, your having a conversation remember...you could go from left to right, like i said, and then drop your eyes to her lips, then look up again... but this is more seduction, like if your in a deep rapport and think the kiss is on then look more at her lips... seriouslu though dont think too much about it....

One point I would like to make though is...when Im out and about and make eye contact with a girl Im aiming to hold my eye contact so that she is the first to look away, if she holds her eye contact back i will smile and say hello... I always feel like if you look away, like you've failed some sort of sub-concious shit test dont you think???

Like i say dont think too much about it...

Tony

Yeaaa, I see where you guys are getting at. I remember reading David Ds book Attraction isnt a choice I think and it said that when he talks to a women he just met and is doing the whole cocky funny routine he doesnt make much eye contact at all. He just busts her balls and makes eye contact once in a while while observing his enviroment. But hey, whatever works for us is the thing we should be doing.

Also, I realized that when you dont make much eye contact with a person they try to get your attention even more thus making you look even more attractive and more alpha. What I believe is that making eye contact once in awhile and busting the girls balls is the way to go and amplifying the attraction with the ball busting. I also believe that when you make 100% eye contact with a girl to try to get her approval when your opening that comes off very AFC and Beta.

Once, you guys have gotten intimate or actually hooked up then maybe add in a little more eye contact. But dont change the way you were acting before because thats what lead you to hook up with her in the first place. I believe this. If your holding 100% eye contact your looking for aproval. But, If you dont hold alot of eye contact your more likely to come off as indiferent to the outcome which is also very attractive to women.

Idk, thats just whats worked for me in the past but sometimes it really pisses people off when you dont give your 100% attention to them and when their talking. Thats their problem not mine.

Great tips and ideas. Keep em coming!

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hahahah if you find yourself staring too much and you hit a pause, keep it for a 3 or 4 seconds and say...."im sorry, but you have REALLY nice eyes" with a big cheesy supprised smile...probably get a laugh and cover up the fact ur staring...smooooooth