This topic is made so I can send people with common issues here and spare myself some typing work 
It should be all you need to learn this, so read it with attention
Topic content:
- 1. How to start learning this stuff and the dangers of information overload
2. Dangers of the chat, An oracle says that what will help you, not necessarely the truth
3. products that I advise
4. steps to take
1. How to start learning this stuff and the dangers of information overload
Alot of guys who come to this stuff get overwhelmed with all this new information and different methods. They feel like they will need a hell of a lot study before they can do something. They start reading from different sources, different methods and
get an overcomplicated idea of how they should game and feel like they need to study more before they can do something.
As a result they study this stuff for months before they take action or start to hang out on a chat like on here which I will talk about later on, and they do not improve. If they go infield they generally forget all the things they read about and fail to implement them. They will just be a chode in the club again.
This can result into
a) clubbing more and start learning from infield experience, which is good (tho you have wasted several months with studying)
b) a more common case like studying even more or creating a bad feeling about theirselves.
Conclusion:
This is totally the wrong approach. It's true, you learn the most from infield experience but as a newbie you will want to study first. I hope with the following I can help you see why infield experience is so important:
Reading seduction stuff can help you when you can relate to it through your own experience, you get an "Ooh that's how they do it" feeling because you have had a problem with it and now you see a good way to handle it. As effect you will remember what a better approach to solve the problem is and be able to implement it.
When you put yourself infield you create those problems / sticking points that you need to evolve your game and now you can effectively improve yourself.
When you do not put yourself infield you tend to read over stuff that would help you and you will not remember the information effectively.
SO GO OUT AND USE THE INFORMATION WHEN FALLING UPON A STICKING POINT AND THEN YOU CAN IMPLEMENT WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED.
you can learn game perfectly by putting yourselves into social situations with girls alot, we tend to overcomplicate this stuff. But you CAN use this stuff to speed up your learning process. BUT stick to one method at a time in order to prevent information overload again. I will give you some products that should be able to help you and which are useful to internalize. This is the most effective way to learn this stuff in my opinion.
2. Dangers of the chat, An oracle says that what will help you, not necessarely the truth
there are a few things that are dangerous about coming on a pickup chat.
1) The ego-boosting AFC: These are the guys who give advise even tho they havent got the experience theirselves. They often give non helping advise and give information overload so the good advice gets lost between the bad. They do not understand the difference between the oracle and the plain "truth". They can't motivate people, put them in the right frame that will help them and get the guy to take action.
The problem is that the guy that asks help gets used to not taking advice to the heart and so doesnt really listen o the good advice to.
a good guideline is taking advice from the mods, they are mods for a reason.
For those who have been in the chat this is what happens when another case of "Denying that I seek apologies for taking actions" comes in and everyone jumps on him that he is seeking apologies. It's the wrong approach, let people help him that know how to do it.
2) Addiction to the chat, which is a common problem of these ego-boosting AFC's. even tho they do not have the infield experience, they get confirmation and the illusion of being a pua by being on this chat. This results in more inactiveness infield.
3) just like books the chat can be a source of information that you can spend to much time on instead of taking action. The same solution as with the books count.
Always know where you stand, step out of the box and reflect on what you are doing and whether it is helping you or not.
3. products that I advise
Take one of the following methods and internalize it infield.
- RSD blueprint decoded
- RSD flawless natural (a smaller version of blueprint, this will be better to start with and once internalized you can expand it with the blueprint.)
- Vin dicarlo Attraction code
- 60 years of challenge (focusses on nightgame), the nameless book with a compilation of posts, you can ask on the chat about it
- gunwitch The way of gun (focusses on daygame)
Some additional useful informational products (not methods on itself) are
vin dicarlo escalation ladder and vin dicarlo conversational cure.
I will update this post once in a while because for now this is just a rough sketch of what i want it to be.
4. steps to take
nr. 1: read this post entirely, think where you are at and if what you do is productive. If it is not, go to step 2, if it is I hope you are not lying to yourself and you have my permission to exit this post
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nr. 2: think about why you want this and where you want to get. Also stop masturbating or try to do it less at least, it kills intention and desire.
nr. 3: pick one of the methods presented to you and have a quick look through the stuff. Find the section about approaching and read/watch it. Now go out and try it. Keep notes of what happens in set and write down your problems. then get back to the material and see what you can improve. This is the way we are going to learn, read how it should be, try it out yourself, write down what problems you have and see what the material says. This will probably need a few repetitions before you get it handled.
plan when you are going out, or when you are going to do daygame/nightgame and STICK TO THE PLAN (you may go out more than the plan says but no less)
You should do at least 2 sessions of game each week. 1 session is equal to going out one night or doing 2 hours of daygame for ACTIVELY gaming.
Step by step you are now improving. Remember: its not because you didnt read the entire systm that you cant number close/ kiss close / whatever. Try to do it your way first, if you get to a problem, look into the material.
As soon as you get your first number close throughout the method you gonna keep doing step 3 with the pointgame of step 4.
nr. 4: For a good learning curve you should at least X points in a week (see the pointsystem). plan sessions in which you will game, doesnt matter if it's daygame or nightgame.
- The pointsystem:
msn/email close: 1 point
number close: 2 points
kiss close: 6 points
threeway kiss close: 12 points
handjob: 15 points
blowjob 17 points
fuck close: 20 points
threeway: 40 points
You can only get one time points from one girl, the highest points reached count ofcourse
X depends on what level you are at:
- newbie: get 10 points a week
intermediate: get 20 points a week
advanced: get 30 points a week
pro: get 50 points a week
godmode: get 70 points a week
chose one of the levels that you believe you are at, and do not stop sarging until you reach your points/week. Be realistic with yourself!!!
Keep doing extra sessions until you reach your goal points, because you didnt get yourself to do some action before.
Happy gaming, Lander.
CHAT
