Wow. I cant belive that 55% of people who voted wanted to become a PUA to become more social.

Sorry what i meant to say was i Don’t believe that for 1 second. Pua is about one thing, meeting women. everything else is a byproduct of that, becoming more social, improving yourself physically. but the reason you came here in the first place stays the same.


That’s why the first time you did a Google search looking for a way to improve your chances with women or picked up The Game. What you were doing was actually admitting to yourself that you want to fuck mary beth with the big tits, who you dare not even look at. Let alone look at in a way that tells her exactly what you want to do to her.

I mean where is the sexual intent in all this. I know the answer to that question. U came on here and its currently cool to be into inner game and u want to fit in, just like the beta males that you are.

You have spent so long being ashamed about wanting to fuck hot women that the second you find somewhere where its ok to think like that, you twist RSD and say that oh its all about inner game and i just want to be more social, its not really about the women at all. Bollocks

im not having ago at RSD or inner game. god knows who doesnt need to improve in that area. what i am saying is that people who say they didnt come here to meet women. whether that be to screw loads of them or find that special one needs a wake up call.

Thats why u all have so many problems with yourselves, you are denying a god given feeling (the need to reproduce) you need to get from behind mammas apron, grow a pair and get some sexuality.

Much love
Hank [/u]

But what if you have a GF, want to remain loyal to her and just find it difficult to network at social gatherings at work? Then the game might be a very nice way to socialize... right?

Right now I dont so yeah I wanna fuck any cute girls brains out and leave her happier than ever... but okay.

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Hi, I need your female opinion on this...

When you have a gf you arent gaming anymore. Because you should indeed by loyal to her, thats why she's your girlfriend upfront.
'The Game' (sarging) was never ment to become more social, it was ment to become laid and when your commited you cant do that anymore. So then your just being a social lurking monster. which just talks to a girl nothing more.

"I wanna" is not what "The Game" is about, it's about "I'm gonna". If your straight about it upfront, no biggie.

PS: Good post Hankey Pankey.

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True communication is communion―the realization of oneness, which is love! ~ Eckhart Tolle

But a big section of 'Game' and this forum especially is the maintaining of Relationships.

After all, that's the be-all and end-all right ? I mean, some people want to fuck lots and lots of girls, some one that special someone. But the ones who want to fuck loads will eventually get bored and want to settle down - it's the end result for us all.

Does Game not teach you how to maintain a happy Relationship ? How to keep the girl attracted forever ? If it doesn't, I'm in the wrong place and would appreciate being pointed elsewhere.

I didn't join the community initially to FUCK LOADS OF CHICKS.

I didn't have much problem getting girls, I joined for other reasons, but seemed to ask things I already knew the answer to. It's like I just wanted confirmation that I had the right idea.

Now my purpose being in the community is a lot different to my initial one.

Why are you so angry about this, anyway, Hank?

Does it matter that they have different reasons to you?

Why does that effect you?

Why is it important?

~Liquid Blend

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

you seemed to miss my point, i didnt say it was only to get shit loads of women. im not here for shit loads of women. what i was saying is that people come here to better themselves socaily and sexually with women and now it seems everyone constantly talks about social acceptance.

most people find out about PUA because of the game. i have only read about half of it but The Game talks about picking women up. not being a social person. so why is the community going that way.

simple, its going that way to accomodate Chody little girls who couldnt be sexual woth a woman to save their lives.

why am i so angry???? im not, i just wanted to state my feelings about this. im just sick of all the whiny girls here saying, i wanna improve myself before i go out and meet a woman.

Oh, I haven't been seeing people ask about social acceptance. Maybe you need to find somewhere else to discuss pu that suits more what you're interested in talking about.
The other thing is, being socially accepted, is a big thing in being able to pick up chicks, not always, but a lot of the time. If you don't 'fit in' and are some social outcast, who people find wierd and odd, it's gonna be real hard to pick up a when you're emitting that vibe.

The game isn't the rules of what the community has to be. It's not like the bible. I first started learning about the community through that book. You can't say the game doesnt talk about being socialy accepted if you've only read half of it, it might say that after ...but either way thats irrelevant. I've only read half of the game too. The game seems to be about using mm, and ss... I think thts how style got his name right, cos he liked all the styles, or some bullshit. Regardless, the game is about style's journey through pu, so the community should be about how we all have to become like style?
If you're so great with women, why are you here?
Also, if these guys are crap with women, you seem to be saying they shouldnt be helped. Some people have other problems, that they need to work on. Just like I don't really have problems with texting girls or much problem with conversation, should i start moaningabout pua has became about how to have conversations?
You know what im sick of. People making statements that the community is purely this, or purely that. Or that this company/method is the ONE TRUE WAY.

Thats the more problem.

Everyone is different.

~Liquid Blend

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Munroe: "I kinoed the hell out of that goat"
Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Lets remember why people gets involved in this stuff:

Because they dont get (want to get more) women.

Some (most) of the dudes that cant get women because they suffer from social anxiety.

They are social wall flowers. This anxiety comes from deep places. You can get laid and still suffer from social anxiety.

Being social is also a human need, just like getting laid.

This should be a warning sign, we are not just dealing with dudes that cant get laid. We are dealing with dudes that have problems with being social.

I dont think that these guys are ashamed of wanting to fuck women They are ashamed of being themselves.

Thats really sad.

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"[Cool is] a heavily manipulative corporate ethos. ”
Kalle Lasn

"Motherfuckers best belive in....That you are fucking with the best" - 3oh!3

Teasing is a battle plan for what Shakespeare called “the merry war.”

You could argue that being more social leads to fucking more women, and vice versa, because they are directly connected. Improve your ability in either and you get better at both (as a general rule of thumb). Just some food for thought.


I had no problems getting women before I got into the game (I wasn't the best but still) and I got into it more out of curiosity. That might be hard to believe but I didn't believe it would help me for an instant but got into it from a friend's recommendation. I was also intrigued at how Style had no problem making friends with anyone - which is more social.

From everything I have learned I value what I learned about inner game the most.

Because of inner game, I no longer need to fuck girls every so often to feed my ego. I don't have an ego; I don't need my friends to know who I do so they can tell me what a player I am because I am an insecure mess who craves approval. I'm not misogynistic - I realise that not only girls are not all goody two shoes and they are not al bad; but there are good girls and bad girls like their are bad guys and good guys.

It's helped me to become a better person altogether and I'm the happiest I've been in years. I'm finally ridding myself of the bipolar personality I had as a result of my depression.

Everyone is different. Don't generalise!

If you improve yourself you are being more attractive to women. Inner game and confidence is greater than all (in my opinion).

Well what is the game anyway?

I think the game is a different point of view to interact with other people. In this way you make them go from "he's a stranger I don't want anything to do with him" to a status where she thinks "I like him, I feel attracted to this person".

And when a person feels attracted you could actually use that fact and turn it into sex, kissing, number close sex and what not.

So it's a way of thinking.

A very natrual AFC way of thinking is "If I am nice, she will like me" and thus people buy drinks, make compliments, be a personal slave etc etc.

The game however has a total different point of view on the whole attraction matter and turns the tables around.

You shouldn't be mr nice guy, but mr challenge guy. You are fun AND a prize. You won't just be given away.

Create interest, and make it hard to get. That's basically what you do.


For me, THAT's the game. It's like a weapon, it was invented for war but you can use it at sports too.

I mean you could even use the game if you are applying to a job. I once kind of did the same and it worked. I made sure they felt that I didn't want the job, but they wanted me. And I was in.



It all depends on what your definition of The Game is. Picking up woman and doing with them whatever your goal is that is one use of the game. And looking at this forum the most common one (for me it is at the moment). For others.. they use methods to get jobs, get more friends or whatever.

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Hi, I need your female opinion on this...

"What is PU? For some people it's making friends..."

"Some would argue that being more sociable and confident makes you better at game..."

I've noticed a trend recently.

Before people went out sarging and as a result a personal journey was taken.

Now people go on a personal journey in order to sarge?!?

A pick up artist ful-fills a very specefic need, he fucks people, he seduces them and he fucks them, that is what a pick up artist does.

Sociability and confidence are a part of that, but they do not define Pick up's goals.

Pick up skills -> social confidence.

Social confidence -/> Pick up skills.

A pick up artist and a hostage negotiator share an ability with communication skills, this is what their trade revolves around.

But you would never call a pick up artist to deal with a hostage scenario or vice versa.

Why? Becuase both people although they deal with an element of social interaction, they each specialise in obtaining a particular goal.

It is not the communities job to get you over your crippling social anxiety, get you popular and stop the bullies picking on you, motivate you to find a hobby, convince you to get into shape or teach you how to make friends with people or even convince you not to kill yourself (I have actually had to deal with that one).

These are all skills that people should have developed ages ago, and their are far more effective and specefic ways of building them without turning to a cult-like and unregulated online society.

If you read the origonal books on PU they don't actually talk about stuff in the same way the new stuff does.

It's only recently that the PU market has started catering for what I call the "dribbling and tottaly useless social retard market segment".

The community has grown soft on this aspect.

If you are to be a member of the communtiy in it's fullest aspects, in the PU side of your life (when you are single obviously) the sarging should come first; everything else is developed in accordance to that.

Otherwise you're just turning pick up from, a community of people dedicated to the art of seduction into....

....something that vaguely represents what it origonally stood for; and calling it pick up on the grounds that it involves "talking to people".

Time is a factor.

Rather how much you have learned.

I started out to take charge. Women had the power over me and I set out to claim it! I came I saw I got the power.

So what to do with the power, fuck a lot of girls of course, yeah cool mmm, nice...

So been there done that, what now? Should I learn to recite the mystery method? No, why would I?

So after getting to the level where you know pick up. You can apply it. You have mastered it... You start looking for deeper knowledge.

Thats when you start really understanding inner game. Thats when you see the true meaning of PU.

Sure getting to a level where you can get girls is not easy but it can be done. So either you chose to leave the society and be happy with what you got or you stay to learn more. I am seeking the secrets of inner game and I see nothing wrong about it.

Ezo

The true meaning of PU is getting laid; this current philosophy of "PU is about uncovering the true self" seems to be an extrapolation of one groups subjective experience and goals, which is now being parroted by newer members looking to fit in with the current trend.

Increasing the number of girls didnt do anything for my basic selfestem - at first.
If I got laid friday I was happy.
If I got rejected on saturday, I was a mess.

Then I started to feel really good about myself, when I realised deep down
I would over and over again be approved by girls.
Especially when I started saying NO to girls I definetly would have gone
for a year earlier..

I found what is a start of a good Innergame thanks to the original intent with PU.
Getting laid.

But why stop there? Im not a master PUA. Never will be.
But I get enough action.

There are so many interesting aspects and every new thing: big or small increases my wellbeing.

So Hank, you go man!
And I'll read up on Yoga meditation.. then I'll go!

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Vino, vedi, vici.
I drank some wine, I saw her, I conquered