Gents,

Im my hand is the latest issue of Cosmopolitan Magazine, thrust into my possession by my sister - who acts as my pivot sometimes when we go out..

I've just read an article in the UK's edition of Cosmo.. titled:

"Believe it or not, These men say they can talk any women INTO BED"..

Interveiwing Speer, Mehow, Hypnotica, and our very own AFC-Adam.

I've read the article a few times, it is well written - it points out how guys look into PUA, for a range of specific reasons. It looks at the bootcamps that some guys go into the learn PU and get over AA (yes, it describes the acronyms we use as well)

It goes into saying how the guys learn PUA how it has progressed through the roughly 5 years its been going for..


"These men have reinvented seduction as a martial art"


The article does not say that PUA is good, nor does it say it is specifically a bad thing, i feel that i leaves the reader thinking has anyone ever done that to me.. did my bf do this to me when we first met? or my husband?

Alarmingly, it does have a 6-step guide on how to spot a PUA; fortunatly, this 6 step guide is used to spot out a lot of routined stuff.. Opening with a "female opinon".. "quick question"..etc, we've all used them. It explains the idea behind pea-cocking, and how PUA spend that extra time analyzing female body language. It give away PUA position during the routine - back against the wall or bar etc.. and it spoils the intenstion of Kino.. "PUA creates reasons to touch you - eg. reading your palm, touching your arm - shoulders..."

But it doesn't give it all away!..

It forgets negs.. which is a pretty crucial part of sarging; and it does not go anywhere near more natural game, and fails to identify the difference of direct / indirect game..

Any girl with a good memory will be able to spot out any stuff used from "The Game", and parts of "Mystery Method"..

I think learning Natural / Inner Game is going to be the way forward now that a massive amount of women know about basic PUA..

Just a little heads up!..
Let me know if you have been stopped in your tracks during a routine becasue she firgured you out!

PUA, just got a little bit more interesting!

-Illusionist-

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"They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told you what "self" to be.." - Gunwitch

The other thing that you have to keep in mind although things like locking in, negs, asking for opinions are somewhat PUA based. A lot of the information that is broken down was all based on successful naturals in the first place. A random guy that goes up to a girl to start a conversation and locks in could no more be a PUA than my 65 year old neighbor.

This is a good reminder for what most of us have been telling some of the newer guys. Stay away from the more commonly used canned lines and make sure to use your own material. I can understand this can be difficult at first but it needs to be done.

Good post!

Well thats just the thing.. newer guys will read the canned stuff, they'll see that it has been tried and tested, and does show results.. but it can be counter productive

heck - i've had success with canned stuff.. but it is not the faith in yourself that makes the success, its the faith in the canned-routine that is just coming out of your mouth..

Natural game requires practice, especially now that women have been exposed to just some of the commonly used stuff..

I have always had a real hang-up about being stopped dead in my dancing shoes..

"let me guess... mystery?.. i bet you think i have something on my mind...?"

ahhh f***ck!.

-Illusionist-

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"They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told you what "self" to be.." - Gunwitch

Well, I still think that this should be no threat to confident PUAs. I have been caught with canned material; then I changed my entire game. There is much to say about using canned material so that you develop certain skills, since it has a higher chance of working. I find it very rare that someone will stop you to tell you you are using X material. I got caught when a guy said thats from Mystery right? He was just messing with me because he was a PUA also (but he was out of the game already).

I have to say though that as long as your frame is good and you make the best of the situation, the girl will still let you talk with her. Heck, talk about how you saw the show or read certain books on the venetian arts and how you are interesting in understanding woman. Most times, they will be interested in what you are saying--you could be gaming them about gaming them.

I have a strong belief that women want PU to happen to them. It makes them feel important and desired--and who does not want that? As long as you are having fun, the woman will she you as a suitable candidate, whether she knows you are trying to PU or not. (Just make sure that you are constantly insinuating sexual thoughts and your desires for her so that you are not just some guy who is friend material.)

If you want to read it:
pua-article-in-cosmo-vt56182.html

[ Johnny B ]

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