Before you automatically answer "Yes you misogynist" let me explain what I mean

When I mean a friendship, I mean a true friendship that has been formed based on no sexual tension, not even a thought of it, just like a friendship between you and your best buddy when you're drinking beer watching TV and talking about how that girl from last night gave great head.

I'm very interested in what people have to say about this. I have been in situations where I have liked a girl and she didn't like me (as all of you have i'm sure) and if I had a dollar for every time a girl that didn't like me said "I DO want to hang out or continue being friends though!" and I'm sure some of them meant it.

But every time I have stopped to even ponder about having a friendship with a girl I may think is attractive is legitimately impossible for me. I will either just continue thinking about all the ways I want to fuck her! I can't actually pretend she is a buddy that I can just chat with or share my fucked up thoughts with. It's not that I'm a misogynist, I just haven't met a girl thats smart and down to earth just yet. (Maybe thats the reason?) Do those even exist?

I have met girls that are smart, but are completely clueless as to how to talk to a guy. I have met girls that are down to earth and cool, but are very stupid, and I have met girls that are both however they are not good looking at all. It's a fucking paradox!

I understand this is very superficial since this thread is created for only good looking girls, but this is just something that has been bothering me for a while.

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"...so it goes"

It's possible. I have a friend that's a good looking woman that I don't want to hook up with. While I find her attractive in the general sense she's not my type physically or personality wise.

its very very difficult to be genuinely great friends with a good looking women.
Ok i have a best gf and we have been friends for a solid 5 years.over those years i spilled my heart out to her in a very AFC way and got nothing in return.i was the dude she cried to ....i was the dude who would do anything for her.and sadly the worst part is i thought by showing my deep sensitive side i would get in.it never happened and it never will.i have accepted that but i still make comments on how much i would bang her.she doesnt mind and just brushes it off.she is a solid hb9.I personally think its impossible to be friends with a girl you are attracted to.It just doesnt work.

Put it this way...if you do shoot the shit with a good looking women and you get completely comfortable around each other, you will want her at some point because the emotional side is sorted. well to be blunt...if my best friend offered her self to me and then we went our seperate ways id take it.MAN ive been in the same room with her when shes changed...ive been in jacuzzi with her ...ive taken pics of her in her lingerie.HOW the fck am i meant to control myself around such a good looking women.it just doesnt work.I have a penis you know lady..

Its more torture than anything else but HEY ive realised il stay friends with her and im definetely gonna get her to pivot at the clubs and stuff.

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Its time for a change....a huge Mother@#$@# change!

glad someone agrees. everything you have said here is on point. I just don't see how a genuinely good looking female can ever be TRUE friends with a guy and the guy not have feelings for her, or anything at all. its only natural anyway right?

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"...so it goes"

It's a very interesting one. Great topic man.


You have to keep faith - a lot of these same girls you talk about, might well actually be very interesting, nice and hot etc. It's just when you meet them in a PU SPAM, or at night, they act in a totally different way for obvious reasons.

I've pondered this a lot. It all brings me back to two or three years ago when I was president of my college. My council was basically comprised of 7 or 8 SMOKING hot blondes and one SMOKING hot brunette, because everyone had voted for the hot girls, in short. Of course I had to keep professional so I couldn't bang em.

At the end of my term, the brunette comes up to me and was like "Rafiel, why don't you come out with us tonight?" Of course we had gone out before and stuff, but this was different. She was initiating me into their circle of smoking hot girls as a trusted, high value guy.

Trusted.

Trust.

I think that's what it comes down to. Making friends with a hot girl set, you have to show that you are high value and you can protect them. Basically, you take on the traits of 'the dragaway girl', only you have masculine power. They may come up to you and kiss you for instance, just to blow away some guy hitting on them.

Also, you can mimic the actions of a gay guy who is great friends with a hot girl.

This type of friendship is hard to get, but awesome as they will depend on you and love you. You are the sugar daddy. Indeed, you can also get sex from them etc, because you are now in the inner circle. Oftentimes it is without sex though, depends on the type of girls.

The other great way to get such a close intimate relationship with smoking hot girls, is of course to bang them first. Afterwards you can friendzone them and it's always really tight if you play your cards that way. I have a few of these.

But...without those two methods above...in my experience I haven't seen any other way of becoming best mates with a HB9+. Looking at past experience, the only situations where I've seen this is where the guy has posed no sexual threat or potential (either by being gay or otherwise). Of course there are HB9+s with good looking/high value guy friends, though i've seen them make out etc just because the girl gets hot and needs a safe bet to fuck around with.

In summary, I think any attempt to friend these girls would revolve around:

Realising they are really hot, and providing value towards helping deal with that.

There must be better ways. But I don't know them from my experience.

Gay men do it all the time

I think it is totally possible. I have many, many great guy friends who I drink beer with, and who have no problems discussing the blow job they got last night in the alleyway with me.

Four of these guys are my best friends who I speak with daily (I live with one). We have seen each other at our best and worst. We have seen each other naked, black-out drunk, head-over-heels in love with someone else, and I know all of their families. I know their secrets and they know mine. True, real buddies. *

Now I know they are attracted to me. One calls me "a sister I would bang", and my roommate told me he had a crush on me when we first met. Another one and I drunkenly made out once and laughed about it later. I'm not inside their heads, so I don't know the extent of what they're not telling me. But I do believe that we have strong, lasting friendships that are (at this point) not based on a desire to get into my pants. If they want me, they don't let it get in the way of our shit. And if we got drunk and fucked one night, we would probably still go out gaming together the next night.

So maybe it isn't possible to have a friendship with a hot girl without wanting her. But it is possible to want her and still have a great friendship.

I'm in several of these kind of relatioships