Wondering if I can get some help. Sorry it's long guys, but I hope you feel
it's entertaining!

So one of my mates reopened a two-set at the door he had previously opened. I let him get to it before I winged the obstacle, because I saw a 20-set of blondes besides us. Now this was a proper set if I ever saw one. Some were REAL 9’s; tall, PERFECT blonde plastics. Some were middle-aged women, and there was a mix of 7’s and 8’s. They all wore pink T-shirts with black lettering across their breasts saying ‘Tit-alistic Tina or ‘Paula’s girl’ etc. They also had a giant inflatable dildo and doll.

I used my usual massive-group-game; open a couple on the side first, draw the rest of the group in, then hook with body language. This was tough, because they were a large but extremely tight circle against the wall, so you could only get to a few on the outside.

I don’t use many canned lines, so I opened HB7 and mother on the outside when I realised I had nothing to actually say, so I said some stuff about body language and their group. Because I knew that no guy would ever approach this set, and if they did, they would try and make up some indirect bullshit – there’s NOTHING you can do to open, EXCEPT EXPLICITLY ACKNOWLEDGE the nature of their set, otherwise they’ll see straight through you and fuck you up.

So I talked, going good, got the whole group’s attention, then rolled off to ‘Kinky Collette’ on the side. She was the hottest there, standing up at present. I knew there was only one thing for this and that was to go GM-style. So I did; I opened her by putting my head really close to her boobs and reading what it said – ‘Paula’s girl’; then I said that’s awesome, and she got excited and asked me to read the back – ‘Kinky Collette’ – I said, who’s Collette? I don’t like Collette. She said that’s her, and got angry. I asked her who Paula was, and she pointed – It seemed to be Paula’s birthday or something? She was in the center of the set – I talked over the group to her briefly, realised I had no choice but to peck so came back to Collette.

Then it started.

Collette: “FUCK OFF!”
Rafiel: “Haha, relax. Let me ask you something.”
Collette: “FUCK OFF.”
Rafiel: “You know you’re absolutely right, I should fuck off right now.”
Collette: “NO, FUCK OFF.”
Rafiel: “I’m going to take a step back, we can just begin to relax as you listen, and I just want to say ONE thing before I leave.”
Collette: “FUCK OFF OR I’M GOING TO FUCKING PUNCH YOU. I’LL KICK YOU IN THE BALLS. IF WE WERE OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW I’D FUCK YOU UP.”
Rafiel: “Ok, listen...”
Collette: “FUCK OFF.”
Rafiel: “I’m going to take a step back and apologise. Will you let me apologise?”
Collette: “JUST FUCK THE HELL OFF NOW!!!!!!”

It proceeded like this for a couple of minutes. I was using body language and voice tonality to the max. I tried NLP, I tried everything, she was having none of it. I wasn’t going to give up, I never give up, because my inner game knows that every set is mine.

Eventually I ignored her and turned to the nearest girl who happened to be a 40-YO milf. Well we got talking and she really liked me, we got on really well, so 5 mins later after Collette had gone off in a huff, conceding, I left on a high.

Later that night I came back after hooking most sets in the room and clearing the dance floor twice with my man Biggi and some random French electric-boogie dude. The Robanator also pulled out some seriously special moves.

So I social proofed the area and even asked a HB8 who was one of the group walking by to tell Collette I’m going to come and talk to her in a minute. 5 mins later, I approach Collette who is on the side of the main set sitting with another plastic HB9. It seemed as if everyone in the set was staring at me despite the loud music and chaos. I went straight in; no bullshitting. I said:

Rafiel: “I’m going to do something that no guy would ever do. Because no guy would even have the balls to approach you guys. I’m going to ask for your number, because I’d like to get to know you better.”

She seemed nicer this time, in that she didn’t threaten to kill me before I even got a word out. Her body language was better. She considered it. Then she said no because she had a boyfriend. I didn’t mind, I have no fear of rejection, in fact I like it as you can learn more. Suddenly, she claimed i had offended her and started saying she was a lesbian with the 9 next to her and touching her. It seemed as if she was going to rip my balls off at any minute, so I politely left the venue (we had rinsed it anyway).

What could I have done better?

hmmm... you know NLP right?

I think you went wrong on..."Colette? I don't like Colette". You declare yourself an enemy that way, at least on a subconscious level.

Then staying in her face she saw that as the starting point for open attack. Nothing personal: it gets her the attention of the group.

Hope this helps bro.

grtz

Bucc

That is hilarious, if a girl told me to 'fuck off' like that I'd tell her to eat shit and jog on.
Great comment! I laughed at that. I use that to think that I can have any girl I want, and if for some reason I don't get them, then they aren't good enough for me

Cheers for the help guys.
Yeah, haha. I mean it was said in a jokey-teasy manner, but I've asked a few people now and they all seem to be saying the same thing, so I think you're right mate. Guess despite the fact that she was probably the hottest HB in town at the time, they still need to be treated as humans.


Haha, well I later heard that apparently she caused quite a stir that night in town; I think a few people did what you said (without properly entering the set, probably taunting her from the side as AFCs do). I don't even want to know what she did to them.

I think this has been a sticking point of mine for a while now. Since I transitioned into pure natural game and no routines, pulling the highest value HBs with attitudes worse than a teenage-rapist has been an issue for me, in nightgame. Daygame I find easy. There's usually one or two HBs in the room who everyone knows is the highest value. I always go for these.

There were two other things I was thinking -

-Perhaps she had just predetermined in her head that night that she was gonna blow out all guys, due to the stag party. I should have adjusted my game accordingly, probably to incorporate more NLP to break her barriers

-My immediate thought after I left is that I should have just gone in Steve P. style and pitched a 3-some right off the bat with a massive, strong and content frame. Next time.