It's really amazing how quick this forum helps people learn the art of seduction, being sociable and bla bla bla. too long to write all i have learnt since coming to this forum but am sure may of you know how effective it is.

Anyway whilst i am pleased wiv my self about moving from the stage where i can't talk to gurls att all or seduce them to actually managing these things I am now stuck on the last bit of the game. don't get me wrong I have been laid be4, but i felt reason for concern when on two occasions i brouth these fairly attractive+ gurls and for some funny reason they weren't into sex. I know its a failure from my part because i wasn't seducing them or any thing. they knew when we were speaking on the phone the only reson they are coming to my house is for lay. but it din't happen.

Cut long story short. How do you guys move into the sex part once all the talk had been done and the gurl is actually in your house. Man i was pissed with myself and i need to upgrade this part of my game. Any advise or own experience would be appreciatewd. Chaw[/b]

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I usually just build lots of attraction put on a crap movie (ill list them below) and about 10 minutes in say "I'm bored" and start kissing them. It helps that my laptop is the only way to watch movies and it is always in my room, which sadly has no chairs hehe

As for movie choice here are some films that are exciting sounding but boring enough to get you laid;
Going overboard with Adam Sandler
Shredder
The Guardian
Nightmare before Christmas (always seems to get girls in the mood, not to self stop hitting on pro-ana goth girls lol)


But yar basically throw on a movie then start kissing them, anytime they mention a bus or train they should catch be like yeah we will worry about that later ..... what you missed the last bus because you were making out with me, you can stay over but no sex ....... cigarette? lol

1.let me show you some pics in my comp (make sure its nothing boring, like your family or bunch of dudes drinking)
she sits next to me on the bed (my laptop is also in the bed).....i let her watch, look over her shoulder....kiss the shoulder, the neck....

2.she walks in the house together with me and i just attack her right there.

3.I tell her she can stay over night and if she doesn´t feel like sex, no problem, there will be no sex (there sure will be, haha)

4.I start talking about sex...I ask her when was her time....whatever she answers, my reply is: That long? wow, how do you do it?....blablablabla.
so, has it crossed your mind to have sex tonight? ......good. come here!

I like to start by playing multiplayer video games and sitting beside her so that we can bump and hit each other, as well as poke and tickle each other before moving onto making out and eventually sex.

Showing her something on the computer is great, or if you've got something cool in your bedroom, like an art collection, or basically anything that gives you guys a reason to hang out in your bedroom and be close together. You do that and chat while throwing in a bit of sexual innuendo and you'll soon enough have her where you want her. The key is to lower your voice and slow it down, not talk really fast and high pitched as people tend to do when they're excited and just having fun; when things get sexy, voices deepen and slow down, so doing it will make things sexy.

Heh! Rye Lee!

You just gave me a devious idea!

Im gonna start painting abstract sensitive oilpaintings. Letting my soul out in bursts of creativity crap! Gimme 1 day and Ill have enough to fill my bedroom with shit that I can pass off for real sensitive emotional art...

Thats gonna be great!

Ezo

Yeah man, I had all my art collection on my bedroom walls in my old apartment (I'm in a temporary situation right now where I can't) and it was like taking candy from a baby. I'd tell stories about each of my pieces, how I got it, funny and interesting things related to it and what it means to me. They start telling me what they like about it and how it makes them feel, or related situations and 2 minutes later it's hot and steamy time. Meaningful art = powerful panty remover!

heheh me and my housemates are doing some art for our new house, damn its gonna be fun, I won't even need the premise of a movie it could be "yeah we just moved into a new place, it was a tad bare so we put some of our art up" and it would be a sealed deal

There is an artists shop around the corner! Tomorrow morning!!!

The best thing is, it is an interesting experiment as well! What they see is what they sense about you... I think it might be too easy to cold read, Im gonna feel bad about it... Not!



Ezo

Your mindset is very fucked up.



Start there.

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Would you care to explain that comment please.

You may be right but for what reason?

Ezo, he describes his situation like it's a bad thing. That he needs a way to somehow fuck these girls when they are over, and if he doesn't, it's a bad thing.

Since when was having a nice conversation and just having fun with them a bad thing? Chances are, they'll fuck you if you just sit back, relax, and have fun with them.

Failure is when you let yourself down. And for me, that's tricking a girl into having sex with me.

His mindset is that this is all a game.

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Wow, great fucking post. That's a really good way to put it. Just having a good time being in the moment and being alone is often enough.

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Beschatten, I read it again... Yes, I agree. I think that many of the newbies believe that they need to talk as if they are real players and use technical terms and the right lingo to get respect here... While they are really sweet guys inside. (Yes that was very gay.)

I hope that the post was more of an expression for the wish to learn more. As I posted in another thread, to get the girl is not always the goal. You can also learn something about yourself.

My post on getting the girl or not getting the girl was inspired by this post.

Ezo

Yeah, I was trying to aim my point in the direction that getting the lay isn't the end-all with women.

Or being desperate for the lay.

This mindset will hurt you. I know it fucked me up pretty bad, and it took a lot to
fix it.

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