I've lately developed a routine stack with about 12 steps between opening and k-closing.. some routines are Mystery's Sound Bait, Best Friends Routine and a couple of negs.

The problem is that, when I recorded myself to test my voice speed and tone, the whole thing was roughtly 4 minutes long!

I'm including a couple Bait Hook Reel Release routines, but does anyone have a field tested topic of conversation, conveying DHV and buying some more time?

I'd appreciate it.. thx and awaiting,
-Teague

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Hey man. Listen, you don't need to use routines they are bullshit used by "Master pick up artists" to sell you extra products. I mean billions of guys get laid without routine right?

You need to improve on yourself as a person and learn the different theories on pick up rather than the lines. When I first started going out and meeting women on a regular basis I used these silly routines. They do create attraction but they also put a lot of stress on you and can come across as strange. Literally the first group of girls I opened after giving up the routines went so much better than before.

You need to know women's psychology, how to manipulate it and increase confidence through certain activities not recording yourself on a voice recorder and anaysing how you sound, jeez.

Butters.

thx for the reply man

first of all, I ain't one of those guys haha

my ultimate goal is to become a natural, that's the type of game you described.. but truth be told I'm not even a PUA per se so far. once I internalize the patterns the routines use to convey what they convey instead of prescripted lines to do so, I'll be there..

right now I'm sticking to my material, be it my own or mystery's, style's or whoever's..

but since I've got into the community I haven't spent one cent in anything.. so at least I'm not losing any money haha

take care,
-Teague

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You know... mPUAs dont really use routines all that much...

But yeah, hes got a point, its not about how many routines you use, try it out in field and see where that lands you, you will get a feel for 1. How they react 2. How long time it really takes 3. How it feels for you 4. If you need to dump some or add some 5.If you wanna change your approach.

Routines are really useful tools to get started on your way to PUAhood! Dont underestimate them. In the end you will not need them, they will be the ones who helped you through the periods of your life when you were too inexperienced to make it solo... Come to think of it, they are a bit like parents. You love them forever and sometimes if the shit hits the fan you can fall back on them...

Ezo