For a novice at least, unless she is trained & going out specifically to wing you. I plan NEVER to get caught in this situation again so take it as a warning or at least prepare.

The girls one of my best friends, has set me up with dates, knows I’m into pick up, wants me to get girls, & has helped by giving me social proof in the past but in groups we were out in. This night I was planning on going out by myself sarging, & she showed up at my door last minute wanting to club with me so I had to take her.

We walk in, & she’s easily one of the hottest girls in there so I got a shit load of looks, which you know as an aspiring PUA you walk in with attitude anyway & try to draw the eyes. In the 1st 5 minutes she went to the bathroom 2 girls opened me & started rubbing my chest dancing on me probably for no other reason than seeing me with her, but when she came back they scattered. I felt like I had to hang around my friend & best plan I could come up with was to try to draw in other girls to our conversations over the shoulder but it was basically like a ball & chain holding me back & deterring girls is what I found.

She wanted to have a good time too, & I had to buy her drinks because she is underage & sneak them to her. I bought her a couple & on one of my trips to the bar when she was by herself I’d seen her blow off a couple AFC’s but a natural moved in started dancing on her a little & talking I knew it was trouble & was already making me look like a tool. I came back to give her the drink & he ejected before I even got there seeing me coming but she had already told him we were just friends.

Night went on about the same, no luck sarging basically attatched to her plus I was boring her I know not dancing which is something I don’t do. She got drunker & eventually as we stand there talking the natural just walks up on her ass & starts dancing & she gets into it so Im standing there like a pathetic chode. I immediately bounce into a set of girls who basically laugh at me so I just remove myself to an area outside. Last I saw he puts some choking dance move pulling her hair to & she really got into it, had the whole club watching them make out at that point. Needless to say this is a club I probably want go back there for a while now as it’s pretty well blown up.

What’s worse though is it’s close to time to go & her girlfriend is picking us up so I call for the ride tell her she is hooking up & the girl who is also a good friend basically made me go cockblock & get her. So I have to walk up to them exchanging number & tell her we are leaving which she just stood there so I walked out alone.

Guys don’t EVER do this to yourself or if you do come up with some plan better than what I came up with & tell me what I should have done. This was ROUGH.

Did you tell the girls that scattered that the HB was just your friend?

Yes, in this situation, you MUST k-close before your friend. This is why she needs to know a little bit about pickup.

Which is why I thought it was important to post. I wish I had been more prepared or had more time to think it out before we went out becuase everyone at my level needs to be aware of this potiental disaster if they decide to go out alone with a HB, or if they get stuck out with a hot friend to alone. I haven't seen anything but positive threads on this sort of situation & social proof though but it can blow up on you.

I was VERY apprehensive about going out with just the two of us because I know how much she gets hit on & thought it could go like it did & would hinder my sarging, but I got boxed in. Didn't expect it to go nearly that bad though.

At that point I was just kind of just enjoying getting rubbed on & thinking WOW things are going to work out . I was going to introduce them when she got back but didn't have the chance.

If I had it to do again I would immediately stopped them dancing on me & say ..

"my friend is coming back but she is a just friend but I think has a little crush on me"

or something similar because I know they had seen her because we were in line together & they were behind us.

this is a really intresting post. There are several things that it seems like you could have worked to your advantage which even in bad situations you always have to be thinking of how you can make things work for you.
First thing that you could have done was you could have immediatly opened the two girls that were next to you while you were in line. Then you could have walked in the club looking like you were with all three girls. This would have been a much easier situation to work with cause 1. you wouldnt of disqaulified yourself to those girls 2. it would of taken the pressure off of you of babysitting your friend. 3. tons more social proof.

Im going to think more about tis post and jump back n it

Hell why not make it more interesting?

"Can you believe I have to babysit by best friends gf tonight? And I think she has a crush on me"

One thing I will say about club game, especially when there is very loud music, is that while we all know that a high percentage of communication is non-verbal, I believe that a lot of guys (including PUAs) will exaggerate and see what they want to see in clubs. This is one reason I tend to avoid clubs, especially in north america (because my voice is my best asset). But if I am at a club, I will still make sure I get SOME verbal action going. If you can start in the line outside, it will make it easier once inside.

Ya.. i feel your story. It's a bit of a paradox. You walk in alone, or with a buddy to a club and you're free to sarge, but it's not so easy because you lack social proof. But when you go with girls, like the time I went with 4 girls and no guys, I find trying to talk to randoms is a bit awkward or inappropriate because it seems like I'm both bored with the girls, and that I'm a sleaze ball who goes clubbing simply to to get into girls pants.

In the end though, obviously having 4 girls by your side is a huge advantage, and the way to overcome the obstacles I mentioned is to behave like a very social guy, who isn't there to pick-up, but to meet people and bring groups together and have fun. You should get o get your girl(s) involved so they wont get bored. Also, mixed sets open even better, and especially if your friends are single, everybody wins.

I really WISH I would have tried that in retrospect, & all this is a lesson learned. Bringing those girls into our set before we entered the club would have been ideal & they were even having trouble with the doorman I noticed, so it would have been an easy open if I was thinking along these lines & should have been. Hell I would have broke my rule & bought them drinks just to walk in with us & hang out a bit to make it clear to the rest of the club that I wasn't just with my HB friend which looked like a couple because thats not a good appearance for sarging & I've found eventually someones going to hit on her even with you standing there it seems. Happens all the time, & we do it to you know. At least if it wasn't a dance club I could have got introduced though & could have eased out instead of the hammer dropped on me.

Heck even if there had been some dudes in line behind me I think it would have been more beneficial to even open them & bring them in with us. Would have been better to pawn her off on someone early & have her occupied than how it played out. I would have rather the rest of the club that sees me as a 3rd wheel out with friends that bounces around to chat up other girls, but that I could have bounced back into that set & pulled some value off of her & a guy I had befriended & looked like a social guy if I was stalling. That's how I normally do it when Im out with friends in a group & her. Would have been far better than it played out.

It's all a learning experience though, ONE big thing I took from this was how that natural did it. He basically got an intro & the info I wasn't a threat when I was away for 1 minute, & didnt even bother with me or meeting me, he just rolled off which obviously had an effect on her buying temp as if he didn't need her. Then he just waited his time until she had a couple more drinks to loosen her up to move back in even with me standing there. Once he did he litterly went for the juggler. He danced on her ass from behind & wrapped his forearm around her throat like a choke hold & started biting her neck while pulling her hair. Trust me I had to hear about this technique that night & the next day & about how hot that made her & how she had NEVER had anything done like that to her.

Now this girl is sexually conservative so for her to allow this after just a couple sentence of intro, I think this approach would work on a pretty wide range of girls in a dance club. I know PUA's aren't supposed to dance, & this guy eventually got no where & she deleted his number, but this is something I took note of & I'm sure has pulled him chicks in the past as effortlessly as he did it.

Thinking about it I really wish in retrospect when those girls came over & danced on me early while she was a way I had pulled that shit on one of them. They had already pretty much gave me permission buy rubbing on me & when my friend came back she would have been the one in the situation I was in later on & had to occupy herself, but couldn't have really blamed me if I was hooking up. She just beat me to it. I was to busy trying to look cool & unaffected buy it which is more PUA creed when I should have just got into it & danced & had fun.

It's ballsy ass move though to pull what he did, because the whole club really stopped to look this guy when he pulled it. I imagine you could freak some girls out with it if you aren't practiced up & that would set up bad for the rest of the club as well. Regardless I put it in my PUA notes even though Im not a dancer.

Most it just sounds to me like you don't have enough confidence yet to maintain a solid presence. When she came back the girls shouldn't have scattered unless your attitude changed as a result of her coming back. When I'm in that situation a hot friend showing up usually causes girls to get more interested in me because I flirt with my friend, while still flirting with them and kinoing both of them, thus displaying the fact that I'm a flirtatious and touchy guy who is successful with beautiful women and they're in experienced hands, so I'll know how to give them a good time.

I used to have a lot of trouble whenever friends would show up when I was with a girl or more, but now it usually ends up working out to my advantage one way or another. I wouldn't say that it is a situation you should avoid, you just need to work on it and improve your abilities. If you avoid the situation then you'll only become weak in that area and it will be a major sticking point down the road, so remember to work on improving your weaknesses as well as playing to your strengths and you'll become a much more capable socialite.

At that point I don't think confidence was an issue. I was very much in "state" & I have pretty good inter game although I admit I was feeling a little uneasy about how the night would play out before I entered the club, but once I did honestly felt like the coolest guy in the club walking in with her all eyes on us & then when those girls got on me.

I was ozzing confidence, but I also think, thinking back arrogance also because I was really non-reactive & totally unaffected by them rubbing on me, or that's the vib I tried to give off & I think do effectively in my sarges but was probably miscalibrated here. I was even leaned up against a poll just kind of getting danced on by random girls with a half smile. I'm sure I had a lot of value at that point & presence in the room to those watching me from the time I entered.

I think them leaving was a combination of them getting bored with me not dancing back on with them as much if not more than her coming back more than anything thinking on it now so I should clarify. They also might have got the vib I wasn't interested since I didn't let loose on them. I did try to say a couple words to them, I should have just stopped them from dancing on me & been like "I'm not the guy that dances, Im the guy that takes you behind the bar & Fucks you" which I have heard a PUA use, & started talking or just went with it & danced, & not half ass both IMO.

I have heard from many PUA gurus to not be "that guy" grinding on some girls ass at a dance club because you never get anywhere, but I am seriously rethinking this dancing thing. That was a situation I should have just let loose & had some fun & I think could have saved my whole night now in retrospect breaking this down. I should have danced first & made my friend occupy herself, then isolated these two girls. It happened so fast though & I really wasn't prepared for it or my normal MO.

ok bro back with more input. I wanted to comment o the guy hitting on your girl. Now if the girl was your target you could have used a vareity of amog techniques which i wont go into, but since she wasnt this is what i would have done. I have a wingwoman and when she gets hit on by other guys I imediatly see if the guy is part of a set with any other girls. If he is I greet the guy and instantly get myself into his set while he hits on my wing girl. It is an awesome way to get into mixed sets.
Now it doesnt sound like you could have done this here being on the dance floor but what I think would have been goo would to have been to start dancing on the other side of your gf. but not in a way to cockblock the guy but in a fun way. get a really quick dose of social proof from them and then pull some dance floor game on the closest girls to you. Be mr. sociable here and be the one to start a dance party so to speak. Now you wont look like the guy who just had his girl stolen. Need any help with dance floor game just ask. It can be easier than you think.