I figured I should change my philosophy on women. Ever since I read David Deangelo's Cocky and Funny guide and his material I took it to far. It feels like I developed in to this person I'm not ...I got way too much..too much of a jerk. I went from extremely nice and shy to the extreme. It's time to find my medium. I figure if you love girls they will love you back. If you appreciate women and treat them they wanted to be treated (not like shit) they will love you. I'm going to work on being a gentleman and making girls smile. Because when it comes down to it I love seeing a beautiful girl happy. I love women they deserve everything. I have come to realize that guys who have problems with women try to approach them differently like being a jerk or trying to be a clown and in turn getting negative responses from women and in turn not appreciating them and putting them down or developing a misogynistic view of women. I realize that things such as porn to women can teach men to be degrading to women or it does not give an accurate picture on how to treat girl. I have gotten way better responses from hb 10+ by just being real with them...If i think she is beautiful..I'm going to let her know...that will be my opener...and everything from there one will be real talk, like a real man. No I'm not going to touch her feet but I'm definitely going to be a gentleman and treat her right but yet be confident in my self and she will see it. I will also work to improve myself and push my self as far as possible. I have goals in life. I'm going to get in great physical shape within the next 5 weeks, I'm going to graduate school and I'm thinking about getting a law degree or an MBA. I'm going to educate myself (which I do) and I'm doing to always try to better my self. Always. Change is my rule of life... in fact "Life is a process not a result"/

Well put. however if you want my opinion, I wouldn't completely abandon the stuff you've picked up about the game and stuff, you don't want to come off as boring because then you'll never get a chance with her. Women want adventure and excitment. What I would do is game her, but water it down a bit, don't use so much material; be yourself. You still need to throw in some DHV spikes and stuff to get her interested but once you get to the hook point you can back off on the game and have a real conversation with her. What you are talking about is perfect for relationships with the right girl. I don't think this will get you laid every night but it should give you more emtionally meaningful relationships and also won't harm your perception of the opposite sex; you'll view them as humans instead of just target or HB 10s. Good luck man

yeah..I hooked up with a pretty cute girl last night by being my self completely ..I didn't go up to her and tell her she's gorgeous or anything but I think naturally DHV'd when I told her my ambitions and stuff..it just naturally came out.. it wasn't like I was thinking about what lines I should use. I still flirted with her and spit game (of course) and was just my self but completely confident..just found my medium. Of course you got to game the girl but some guys just take it too far and I remember I used to. But the attraction phase with this girl went by quick and we moved on to the comfort stage and spent some time there.... I think I'm good when it comes to attraction my sticking point has always been comfort stage so I've been working on that like not coming on too aggressive or or coming off as I like her just for her looks...I always get them to qualify themselves for me..but it's not like I mean for them to do it it just comes out naturally.. and I just notice the steps =]

thats good

I myself am very grateful for the social skills and confidence I earned, but still Im not interested enough to be a big player and lay every women in my town
so yeah, Im on the boat of the balance too, its not that egotastic or glamurous but I believe it will be rewarding