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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:19 pm 
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Hey you Guys!

Im wondering about the fact that we live in a "secret way of life", now with "The Game", a least secretive, but still secret society.

So, you guys hides the fact that you read and study about seduction, learns to develop your confidence, and all the stuff that drives us to sucess with women?

What would it be if everyone knows our tricks? Specially women... I have some fear that someone in college could discover it, and you know what it means...

So, how you think about that? Its really a great deal? Do you hide the community from your friends and family?

Have a nice day. I'm waiting some answers on this. =)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:38 pm 
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A lot of people don't / won't understand. No lies. I don't keep it a secret, though. My sister knows as do my closest friends. I don't think I've mentioned it to my parents, but I'm usually pretty circumspect about my love life with them anyway. I certainly plan on sharing it with any girl with whom I want more than a casual dating relationship. I'm not ashamed of what I'm doing and I'd rather educate her up front than let her jump to conclusions if she would find out later.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:43 pm 
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I hide it to a certain extent. For example, The Game can be clearly seen sitting on my bookshelf, but more obvious seduction books like Gambler's Natural Art of Seduction are hidden away in a drawer. I just don't want people asking questions and making jokes. Tradionally, men are supposed to know how to chat up women, so looking for help can be seen as a weakness by some.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:58 pm 
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Funny thing is, I've told close friends about this, and at first they dismissed it and mocked me a bit. After a few weeks they ended up coming to me for advice. Heck, a friend of mine decided to try it out himself.

I've told several girls, and they all have different reactions. But after a while, curiosity takes control and they ask me how I'd react in this and that situation.

Bottom line is, I'm not shy about this stuff at all. First reactions don't mean anything.

I talk about it only to people really close to me though. I keep it a secret from other people, just for the fun of them wanting to know more about it. Makes me mysterious. I'm totally making a mysterious guy face right now.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:29 am 
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I don't hide nor do I show it off. If the topic of getting girls comes up I do talk about various methods I use, but I never mention where they come from. And I never had a girl once ask me where I got such knowledge.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:11 am 
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nah man.

i let everyone know.

i even tell girls im a master of speed seducton its a good opener.

"watch out i know speed seduction so if you turn out to be cool and i want to i may have to take you out of this dump"

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I've told my close friends, if for no other reason then so that they'll understand me suddenly inviting them out to the nightlife all the time (still working up the going solo courage). I found I had a couple "don't become a jerk" type responses at first, and since then they've all accepted it. Hell, my dad thought it was a cool idea when I finally told him about it.

Now, I don't go around telling acquaintances...seems too likely that someone will blab about it at the wrong time. And, one of my friends did embarrass me in front of an ex--he told her that I was working on social skills and meeting women, and she of course ran wild with it.

Still, telling them was worth it. It's hard to make a major life change without bringing in your closet people, and I'd rather risk a little flak than play games and hide it from them.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:06 am 
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My friends know and I tell any girl I plan to get anything serious going with but I keep it well away from work, not sure why I just think it is not something they need to know.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:46 am 
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from my family, sure thing. From my friends, well, most of them. the great mayority, as soon as I mention a book about pick up they go like "you're such a loser you're supposed to learn that sort of things by yourself"... so I'm not mentioning PU art to anyone as I'm sure they'll not value it as it is.

only a few friends went like "fancy that" but so far no one was like I wanna learn PU!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:50 am 
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mates all knew me as a player neway, always keeping the secrets of the girls I cheated with.

Girls smell my confidence and question it, although thats nuffin to do with being a PUA, more of the personal development ive been through.

Ive told all my lad mates about the game and how its a lot deeper, complex and creative than we'd omagined, I think my main 3 drinking buddies all learning stuff with me, some do audio courses, some come round watch PUA on youtube etc and others just ask for advice etc.

I think as a group we have a collective consciousness when it comes to the pickup game, we work as a unit of individuals, social proof a plenty and the wing system is firmly in play.

I have a few pivot girls who know how I roll and constantly lining up women for me to work on, I also have some girls who Ive told about my techniques and attitude etc after the F-Close lol. Most are pretty impressed with the fact I bothered to learn anything and also like the fact Ive learnt stuff since school lol.

My family well... my old man, i think hes an old skool player from the day, he knows exactly what im up to, shares jokes with me in a vulgar undertone etc and generally appreciates this "stage of life" as my mum puts it. My mums opinion is "I really dont understand you, but your my son and I love you no matter what."

My colleages all know in detail my LR+FR's from most nights out, most people refer to me in the office as "Dirty Dogg" because Im juggling so many women and whenever we do work social Im always working girls etc. They also keep up on my blog and stuff and enjoy working with a kiddie who just so out there and not afraid to take what he wants.

Basically the only people in my life who dont understand my approach and my point of view are the people who havent crossed paths with me yet. I dont believe in deception or dishonesty, I believe the truth shud always be told, just not everyone has to hear it.


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only a few good friends now it, they have to be worth it

if an afc isnt enthousiastic to change a little bit towards women, all the effort is useless

i dont tell it to girls


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My response:

I'm a grown ass man!

I don't keep my books in the open because it does subtract from the illusion of the perfect seduction when I bring women over. However, I make no major attempt to hide it from friend and family. I've teased by it before why people I know, but I just asked them when was the last time they got laid. Most of them can't even talk back.

Ironically, it's the usually geeks I know who tends to try to make fun of me for learning pick up. The guys who're already good with women give me a bit of lip, but they're actually willing to help me out with gaming.

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Nice posts!

I think that theres no problem to talk about your seduction skills if you really have sucess with women, but for a Green PUA as me, is better keep my mouth shut.

Im not like Style or Mystery to talk about it in TV, they're really sucessful, they dont need approaval, and their exposition just makes them more attractive do ladies. Because they really get laid... and this fact just makes a girl starts to love the possibility of a master seducer gets attracted to her, as a real proof of their beauty. You know that.

By the way, I tell for some friends, but they dont even believe that this stuff works, I suppose that I dont need to mention the laughs of them.

Maybe they could change their mind seeing me starting to obtain results on that. But I really dont care more, doesnt make any difference.

Fu$$

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:17 am 
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Nice posts!

I think that theres no problem to talk about your seduction skills if you really have sucess with women, but for a Green PUA as me, is better keep my mouth shut.

Im not like Style or Mystery to talk about it in TV, they're really sucessful, they dont need approaval, and their exposition just makes them more attractive do ladies. Because they really get laid... and this fact just makes a girl starts to love the possibility of a master seducer gets attracted to her, as a real proof of their beauty. You know that.

By the way, I tell for some friends, but they dont even believe that this stuff works, I suppose that I dont need to mention the laughs of them.

Maybe they could change their mind seeing me starting to obtain results on that. But I really dont care more, doesnt make any difference.

Fu$$

NOT ANOTHER THREAD ON THIS!!! Let me vent my frustration...


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Firstly "secret society" wtf!

Thier are video's on youtube, their is a reality tv show, we're not secret and people knowing you are a PUA is not the end of the world.

All of my current GF's at some point during the first 2-3 dates, if not, before dating me, knew what I did.

If your "friends" will "use this against you" then their obviously just being meat-headed dicks, and my attitude to those kind of people is to drop them from my life, either I feel comfortable with my friends or I don't, in which case I'm not really botethered about hanging out with them.

It is fine to tell people you are developing these skills, I honestly cannot see the downside to telling others.

Main points.

1. The community isn't secret.
2. Their's no point hiding PU, unless you have poor frame then their should be no negative consequences. frankly is your not being braggy, their are alot of positive traits that can be demonstrated through your connection in the PU scene.
3. WARGAGAGRGAHKWJLJNFEAKJFJBGDB!!! WHY DO I HAVE TO KEEP TYPING THIS!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:05 pm 
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Half the guys I see at parties probably own some sort of book on pick up. I've met people at random places and could tell they were sarging. I've even called some of them out on it and had good conversations. Just tonight, a buddy of mine asked "Are you into that pick up artist stuff? I could totally tell!" Everybody's doing it....


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