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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:25 pm 
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Ok, well i know how to K-close and how to isolate so a sex location...

but when im on the bed making out with her. what next? do i just try to take her top off?

and all this stuff about saying loads of romantic things? I feel a bit stupid sayin "it feels so good… when cold chills run down your spine…you feel so secure and comfortable yet excited…as a hot wave runs through your body …down to your feet…you can feel you my breath…turning you on …your passionate eyes reflecting in mine, our bodies…so close together, warm skin touching………lips. nearly kissing …touching if at all…..as desire…keep building up…and …ready to explore…in passionate…."

or something along those lines.

can anyone break it down as simple as possible for me?

Thankkkks :D


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:32 pm 
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If your both making out. Start to remove her clothes. Start with her jeans, then shirt, than thong, and then bra. While you are making out and removing clothes, use your hands to rub behind her back, the insides of her thighs, her butt, and her vagina. You want the moves that you make to escalate from friendly touching, to getting close to her arousal spots, to teasing her arousal spots, to finally penetrating. It will get easier with practice.


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When you're already in the bed with her making out and you both are
turned on, you should just continue telling her how beautiful her body is,
and start kissing her starting at her neck and work your way down to her
inner thighs...

At her inner thighs, just slowly kiss and lick them and work your way up to
her "no no" spot and then get to licking that clit.

If she don't allow you to lick it, or you don't do that, then when you are down
there, just stick in a finger or two (or three). Make sure your finger is wet and
that you play with the outer lips first in order to get her loosened up and then
you can insert your finger and just start fingering her.

If she is grinding on your finger wanting more or wanting it deeper, you can
then go back up to her and start kissing her more.

Pay attention to her breathing, if she is breathing deep breathes she is wanting
more stimulation. It is time for you to stick her.

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One thing that can be hugely exciting, and also limit LMR, is teasing.

Say you are kissing, and you start kissing her neck (big erogenous zone for most women) and perhaps you move down kissing her chest, her breasts then close to her nipple, before you pull back a little.
She will most likely urge you onward, if not you go back to kissing, letting your teeth scrape against her neck etc.

Move your hands to her sides,
If you let your hand caress her sides and her belly and kiss it, saying how beautiful it is or how you "Love your belly" to her, that will let her get comfortable with you since you qualify her body.

Most people are a little insecure about their bodies (this is why so many work out etc. :P and those who work out are pretty often insecure, even though they have stunningly beautiful bodies. There's no harm in telling a woman how beautiful her body is. at least not at this point, in the Seduction phase of the M3 model.)

If you also have some idea of how to stimulate her erogenous zones.
Such as when you take her pants of, kiss her on the back of the knee-joint.
Kiss her whole body, let your tongue run across her skin, these sorts of things.

Also, if you now are down by her knees, slowly working your way upwards toward her pussy, kissing the insides of her thighs, again maybe letting the tongue slip out across her skin.
If you build this way up towards her, and just narrowly avoid letting your lips or tongue touch her pussy, maybe just letting your breath run across it, even from outside her panties she will feel this.

But this is into foreplay.


Getting the sexual vibe going you move slowly forward.
You may let your hand slip in across her skin, under her top, maybe play with her tits, (after kissing her neck?), before you move your head down, and kiss it through the clothing.

You don't have to say anything, really.
If she's at your bed, making out, a few words perhaps of reassurance, (like telling her how firm her tits or ass is, stuff like that :P) but mostly it's about body language.

if you pull her hair a little back to expose her neck, even better.

you may command her, say "take off your top" or you can simply take it off for her.
or you can take off your shirt, while looking at her, to which some will take off matching clothing, or be more compliant about you undressing them.

If you don't know how to take of a bra, let her do it, or learn it ;)
You'll probably find demonstrations or instructions on net on how to do it with one hand even.

Then by going into really making out, skin against skin, the heat of your bodies will leave her even more horny.

One of the key points in my experience has been to move steadily but slowly, so she doesn't feel overwhelmed.
She has to feel it's what she wants...


You can guess how you go on from now, lying together, topless, her breasts against your chest...

That's right; you move your hand down, caress her body, her thighs, her ass, the insides.
A useful move to do, is when you let your hand caress her ass, you place it in between her thighs, from the back, and let your fingernails scrape against the texture.. if she's wearing jeans, this will tingle a bit, and that's Good ;)

She'll probably follow your hand up with her ass, pushing it backwards and up.. That means you can go on :D


By this time, she should be pretty turned on, and you go on, taking off her pants, make sure to take the socks with... Women are not that big fans of wearing only socks.
So: Ending up with your bare ass and socks and a t-shirt is bad.
Ending up with only a boxer shorts is good, or naked, even better.

It may be more exciting for her if it goes one level at a time, so; first topless, then in just panties and underwear, then naked, then sex.

But that depends on how much she wants it right away, you'll probably feel it by then :P


If you remove her pants (and socks) and then move into kissing her legs, her thighs, maybe planting a big, sloppy kiss with tongue and heavy breath on her panties, a little above her clit or directly on top of it, that's good.

If you want to amp the foreplay, you move slowly forward.
Not going for the pussy until last will in most cases make the first contact you have with her pussy absolutely wonderful for her, (she'll think "Finally :D" and her body may involuntarily shiver or twitch. That's good ;))

From there on, you are pretty much home free.
Once she's without her panties, you may eat her pussy a little, (be careful with the clit though, it's sensitive, so direct contact isn't always good, but this varies from woman to woman, so test the waters a little, but start gently, let your tongue slip along the length of her lips from the point between her asshole and her pussy.) but this isn't always needed.

Fingering you can do almost from the start, but I usually wait until we're at least down to just pants.
Depends on how turned on she is, and all that.

I've hit LMR through going too quickly down her pants, (while we were still fully dressed) so watch out for that ;)


Fucking you shouldn't need help with, I hope.
Most of it comes with experience, and reading stuff, trying out things.
Be Creative and take it Lightly.

ps. Remember to take off your socks... as I said earlier, women find it ridiculous when a man is standing/lying in bed with just his socks on.



Sorry for the long read, but it's an extensive subject.
There's lots of ways of going about generating sexual tension and escalating, but this is the most straightforward one I use.




Cheers, and good Luck ;)


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Cheers guys, this is great stuff.

All becoming so much clearer now.

And dont worry about the long post wolf, its kool helped me alot :D


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Hehe ;) Good


When you get the sexual frame going, it usually carries itself, and the escalation happens automatically.
So after a few times, you should start noticing that the seeming gap between kissing and sex isn't really that big.

Just like with kissing, unless you build up the needless expectations in your head, you'll most often find it just happening, by itself.


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First, dont lie down in the bed unless you are damn sure in yourself that you can fuck the girl. And if you are asking questions like this over here, you arent.

So what do I mean?

Stay on the couch, or on the floor by the TV, even standing up with her back against a wall is GREAT! Why? You are avoiding LMR by avoiding an area she will absolutely equate with sex, and you need to avoid this because you need to learn to escalate properly first, or you WILL get LMR.

(If you do end up on the bed, still follow this advice. I dont recommend going kissing straight down to the pussy at all, unless the girl is already hot and wet and wants to fuck at least physically. Then a quick surprise caveman tongue lashing will almost always get you laid, but you are risking never making it that far if you arent reading signals right and your physical game is off.)

The following is a solid field tested escalation routine that is vouched for by experts across the field. I found it by pure trial and error, but you can actually buy e-books describing it. It is for successfully bedding a girl who has a high chance of LMR. In other words, if you are sure of the lay, you can go a LOT faster than the following:

Starting, you should be kissing and touching... Avoid the breasts at first, pinch her earlobes softly, grab the nape of her neck, hold her head while you kiss her. This will turn her on.

Now move your hands down her back, rub her back, slip a hand in under her shirt and rub nice in the small of her back.

Pull her shirt out a bit more, and softly caress her tummy with your thumb or index finger (dont look while you do it, you should be kissing her), occasionally hook or dip your finger under her belt, but dont dig down into her pants... yet.

Go ahead and pull your shirt up a bit as well. Get her to put her hands on you, rub your stomach on hers a bit, lead her, girls want to be led most of the time, especially in the beginning.

Go ahead now and rub her ass a bit, pull her up towards you, you should be crossing legs somewhat, rubbing thighs together... can you see how this is slowly escalating towards pure naked sex? Grind your crotch into hers, firmly but not violently. If she responds well, reach down and squeeze her inner thigh, rub a little, but dont touch the pussy! Tease her.

Take your hand away, play with her back again, hook her pants more, especially pull on the front of her jeans, like you are hoping the button pops off. With a bit of teasing and slowly escalating, you will aim to undo the top of her pants. When it pops, dont just reach in, but slide your hands around the brim again reach down towards her ass inside her pants, rub her back some more..

NOTE: she should still have her shirt on, tho hopefully with all that backrubbing, you have unhooked her bra as well. Some girls have a bad aversion about their breasts, unfortunately. Even more think of it as the second stop right before sex, so you will hit the panic button and induce LMR if she isnt ready or if you arent smooth enough. To touch the breasts, I usually am rubbing her shoulders and will accidentally rub the sides with my forearm or bottom of my wrist/palm, if she responds well, you can escalate, any hint of pullback and just lay off them.

Anyhow, at this point you have her kissing you hard, touching your body preferably inside your shirt, feeling your chest and arms, as well you should be crossing legs and grinding hips, and most importantly:

1. She isnt in bed (most common place for sex) and may be standing up!
2. She still has her shirt and pants on
3. She feels like so far the situation is under control

So now it is time to really escalate. Rub her thighs some more, but now, accidentally push against her mound, like with the back of your thumb, and only briefly. Repeat it, more and more. If she grinds for it and doesnt pull back, and especially if she feels hot and wet, then go for direct touching.

What I like to do, is to slip my hand down deep in her pants on her ass, and start working that way. Most girls really like this, and it catches them by surprise because they dont expect you to go this way. But really, girls REALLY love to be touched there, most of the time. Then you can flick your middle finger out and brush her panties across her pussy a few times, and she should really be ready for action.

From there on out, well I really hope you know what you are doing. Find some women's educational videos about masturbation if you dont, but at this point, if you are fingering her, you are almost golden.

If she grabs your cock, or really lets you finger her, its time to move to a more comfortable location. This should be very close by, preferably less than a few feet, no closed doors in the way!

You can either 1) stop suddenly, smile at her and take her by the hand and really just lead her directly to the place, lay her down physically, dont say a WORD just do it and if she says anything just say "its ok" or 2) do the kiss/grope walk, where you both continue making out and touching as you slowly trip your way to the bed, preferably while ripping eachothers clothes off.

Once you are laying down and directly stimulating eachother, its time to just start pulling clothes off. Shirts first, work her pants off slowly, never sit up and pull them off, never break your concentration on pleasuring her body!! Get her pants off, and then its a great time to go down on her, unless she has been super shy. Practise eating pussy, girls fucking love it, they get mad wet, and you are guaranteed to get laid afterwards as LMR will be a thing of the past.


So basically, you want to take some time with each step, and follow a slow and steady escalation. Dont go too fast, or make abrupt changes like suddenly diving into her pants when you were just making out, but as well dont get stuck on one place, like rubbing her tits for 30 mins. (its not highschool anymore, ok?) If at any time she gives resistance, then just back off one step, and then slowly but surely, reescalate. Two steps forward, one back, for every time she puts up resistance. Hopefully that wont happen too often. If she really goes NO on you, then freeze her out shortly, then return, but theres a big chance she just isnt ready to go all the way for whatever her reasons, so respect that.


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if you're in bed just escalate in bed, do you even need to think about this?


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excellent posts!

Reads like a romance novel... Which I guess is what you want! Gonna need a cold shower now. :oops:

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If youre in bed just escalate in bed. Do you even need to think about this?
Two things:

1) Not sure how many women you've slept with, but quite a number will display LMR on you while in bed making out, especially if you are not smooth physically and/or if you have gamed them into bed faster than they normally would do so. Lots of them.

2) Obviously the OP does need to think about this. Thats why he asked the question, and that's why the rest of us are here as well. To help each other out. Not all the answers are obvious to everybody, everybody has to learn the basic stuff from scratch at some point in their lives.


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Hey cheers daggaz, really cleared it up for me :D great post,

and yeah ShadowMTL where you may find sexual escalation incredibly easy as you make out, some of us may not (hence the fact ive just turned legal) this is one of my sticking points and im getting it sorted, where as you may be able to sexually escalate better than me, i bet i can get a girl into the bedroom faster than you could ever imagine ;)


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