I am so fucking jakd off about people around here, societys norms and values.

Basically i came clean with my parents about the whole PUA thing, in confidence, and they have fucking broadcasted it. I dont mind being known for what i do, but I cant stand the thought of them telling everyone how ''deluded'' I am for believing in this shit. Let a loan teaching it. After being forced to endure a 3 hour fucking argument with my dad I have just blown my lid. He swears that the best by far way to attract a female is by your looks and advised me to get to a gym. I responded, since when was hue hefner drop dead gorgous??? Why do the worlds hottest women crawl all over him??? I was stupid enough to use that example. His response was for money, and tbh i could not be fucked to explain the whole higher value thing. Im a fairy good looking guy, always have been, but I was bullied to fuck, had no success with females. After 2 years of solid training I bring home more females than a spider catches flies. The response to this was - ''its all in your head Jason. FUCK OFF.

Im tired of this community being shunted aside, labelled and discriminated against. I saw a thread a couple of days back which was a copy of some bloody female ranting off about how easy it is to spot a PUA, how they use cheesy pickup lines and how annoying they are. According to her all females should stay as far away from us as possible.
Typical discrimination in society, which comes from fear.

The truth is people are scared. Especially people in relationships. I tried to explain value to my mum and how it generates attraction and love and she had no time for it. Denied it completely. She has been with my dad for a good 20 years now and for her to accept that all that investment, a life worths of investment in fact, was an illusion, would cause her anxiety to say the least. Its not chemistry, its value.

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Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

"Wouldn't it be said of him that he went up and came back with his eyes corrupted, and that it's not even worth trying to go up? And if they were somehow able to get their hands on and kill the man who attempts to release and lead up, wouldn't they kill him?" -Plato (pulled from wikipedia)

You'll get used to it. This is a very common phase.

Been through it for a while now. My gfs can accept it, dont know why they cant. Ive already told them i wont be helping them with fuck all unless i at least get some encouragement. Im not after the world. When I was younger they used to tell me i could achieve anything if i tried hard enough (everyones heard that at somepoint from sum1), and that do what i think is important. Different now init. Bastards.

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By "achieving anything," they meant academics, financial success, and marrying one woman who would settle for you by luck and chance, then having 2 children while living in the suburbs with Caucasian neighbors who give you jello.

You think YOU have it tough? Check out the shit Masters and Johnson went through when they published scientific research about human sexuality in the late 50s and 60s.

Yeah they had a hard time i know ,
As i say, youve just listed expected norms and values. Im tired man.

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I got a lot of shit at the start now people are seeing results they have gone quiet lol. Also I openly admit I am a pua to women now, it is a great subject to talk about and Hitch is a life saver lol ("what like in Hitch?" lol exactly like that).

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Two words worth looking up on Wikipedia

"Oedipus Complex"

I think PUA is like many things that are unfairly discriminated against as people for the most part don't understand it and if they have heard of it, they didn't get the full picture. I also think the brainwashing in our society in that you have to be a nice guy and bend over backwards to get a girl isn't helping things either.

why did you tell your parents??

You might not admit to yourself now but listen . . . when you're older, you're going to laugh at yourself for what you're going through now.(Hopefully)

You're a kid who probably knows his parents better than they'd like to admit. Unless you are totally lost, you know how to press your parents' buttons both positive and negative. And you just intentionally pressed their buttons to F with them, that's all.

What did you expect when you told them that you were a PUA? Do you want them to invest seed money to launch your school? What type of outcome were you you hoping for? A slap on the back and a "that a boy!"??

Come on man . . . you're a young kid but don't fall into becoming some whiny little bitch. This is so unbecoming of an aspiring pua. So if they gave you a slap on the back. . . what's the positive outcome? So they laugh at your face, what exactly is the negative outcome?

Gain some balls and learn to laugh shit off.

I've told everyone. The worst I've gotten was "dude, all you have to do is be yourself" from the same guy who said, "dude, it's not like you have the pick of the litter" when he was trying to 'hook me up' with a fat chick with 5 kids and I told him I wasn't interested.

I've gotten a lot of support from another friend, but he's going through a rough spot with his girl/ex-girl right now.

I'll say, yeah, it's geared toward picking up girls, BUT the changes you have to make cause you to be a better person on the inside as well as out. I've never had a social circle as big and diverse as I do now. I've never been the leader of a group. Things have changed, and are continuing to change for the better.

If they don't like it, they can go fuck themselves... I'm not appologizing for this.



My mom's currently borrowing some of my Mystery DVD's.

Go figure that one out.

PUA = Player is what most people think. Is a player socially acceptable? No, they manipulate cheat and lie to get what they want and then leave - people view that as bad. The only way to avoide it is through explaining exactly what it is and how it works, although for that to work you have to have people willing to sit and listen for a few hours and have everything they thought they knew shattered and re-built.
I agree with kasabi on what were you expecting to get from it? Personally i have never told my parents in black and while i am a PUA, its not because i am keeping it a secret but because they know i have success with women and in all honesty the no more want to know about my sex life than i do theirs!
Can i suggest you drop the subject with them for a while and continue with what makes YOU happy. Thats all they really want is for you to be happy, they will start to notice the women in your life now and they might even start asking you about it. The key thing is to let them come to you! Dont try and force it down their necks.

Madals

man thats rough. why dont you start bringing loads of girls home to prove them wrong? yeah im pretty sure thats how my parents would react. i can see the point of the girl who said puas are easy to spot because sometimes they are, i mean look at mystery.

im sure if you keep persistant and show them it works they might eventually lighten up to the idea but imagine if you havent discovered pua until your about 40-50 and your son trys to talk to you about it and your in a relationship so your not that intrested anyway.

peace olie

holy crap my dad almost caught me on this site just as i was typing this lmao. its kinda bad i have to hide it from him

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Dude what the fuck is that meant to mean???

You wanna throw freud at me be my guest,

Oedipus complex is the three way relation between parents and child. It occurs in the PHALLIC stage. This is between 3-6 years. Thats your logic flawed right there.The child is now fully aware of its gender, and the fixation of organ pleasure shifts from the anus (dont ask - goes along with potty training) to the genitals. The child then begins to realise its exclusion from certain aspects of its parents lives, such as sleeping in the same bedroom. So the child wants to share the bed. The child then begins to seek affection from the parent of the opposite sex (in a non sexual way - this part has a lot of critique to say the least), and begins feeling resentment towards the parent of the same sex, they see that parent as a potential threat to them getting the full amount of affection. The amount of times ive heard this shit from my psychology lecturerer, honestly its old man.

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Kasbi & madals, I do see what your saying. I can handle everyone knowing, i can laugh it off.

Just feels weird with my parents. Always had their support. Cheerz for the advice guys. Madals, good plan.

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