Hello community, I got a lot on my heart but will try to express myself briefly.

For the last half year I've been on a selfimprovement spree. And just recently I've dedicated myself to live healthier, alot healthier:

- I workout daily with bodyweight exercises
- I eat after my bloodtype - a very absolute way of eating
- I stopped drinking
- I stopped intoxicating my brain with flouride toothpaste
- I read two books a week, to keep my mind active
- I stopped doing any pharmaceuticals, in favor of natural herbs

The list continues, and it is awesome and I love the new way of my life.

But, my current social circle don't seem to addapt well with these changes I make in the sake of selfimprovement. As a matter of fact, many of them are the exact opposite, they "live life to the fullest" if that is what you would call demolishing your gene pool as a weekend/everyday junkie on coke, MDMA and such.

I don't know if I should just lay them on ice and seek likeminded associates.

I would very much like to hear your thoughts on this if you've been through something similar.

Well I think you're a nutbag. There's a reason why people usually died at 40 back in the day when all sicknesses were handled by "herbs." Alternative medicine gets that name either because it has not been proven to work or it has been proven not to work. If you decide that 90% of the world around you is toxic...yeah I wouldn't wanna hang around you either. I don't do drugs, but I know people that do. Some people bother me with it, if they can't set it aside for a moment. Others just do it in their own time, and that has no effect on me whatsoever.

It's up to you whether you want to keep friends who are different from you. I certainly wouldn't wanna hang with you though. I feel like every time I had a beer I'd get a speech from you on how healthy you are for not using fluoride toothpaste...I'm still giggling at that, btw.

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These hos ain't loyal

well, health is really only one aspect of self improvement, it is not the be all end all, you still have your relationships and finances to improve on to better your life

In response to the question "self improvement; is it anti-social", I guess it depends on what aspect of your self you're trying to improve. You seem to only be trying to improve the health side of things. That has made you feel better about yourself, but at the expense of your social life.

So now that you've got the health side of things sorted, you should also try to improve the social side of your life too. If your current friends go out and get wasted every weekend, and you no longer want to do that, then there's two options. Go out with them, but only take what you're comfortable taking - if you don't want to be doing coke etc. then just go out with them and enjoy the evening without the coke and what not.

If you don't think you can do that, then get some new friends. Join new groups or whatever, find people who are more aligned with your style of living and meet up with them more.

You've got to do one of those two things, as you can't just sit at home with all day every day however good the health side of your life is - we're social beings and you need social interactions.

It's not that I only work on my health, no definetely not.

My job requires of me to talk to a couple hundred random strangers daily, which have improved my day game times a million, all the experience is priceless.

I get to talk to so many interesting people each day, and I just recently realized that my current social circle is not only selfdestructive, but they aren't very awesome or intelligent either. Chicks are rarely picked up in their hunting fields.

Which brings me to their huntingfields; bars crowded with people drunk out of their mind and chicks are so blurred up in so much make-up you have no idea what they actually look like. Not really my taste.

I need to put some space between myself and these people, and seek some likeminded people to socialize with. Some clever dude said: "Yourself in 5 years is the product of the books your read and the people you've surrounded yourself with"

Speaking from my experience, your social circle should be a reflection of yourself. If you do not like it, change it. I hang out with various different types of social circles such as football/rugby players, stoners , school-oriented etc.. They all have their pro's and cons, such as the intellectual-type not being as fun to go out with because they are a little socially awkward etc etc...

It seems you are on a self-betterment mission albeit I think your going to such an extreme that I'd say your borderline weird but none the less I think you should surround yourself with people with similar interests and values. I think your venue choices to meet people like you is one of your problems. I think you should be joining outdoor clubs/ gym/ book clubs to meet people that will appeal to your new "more sophisticated" you.

For me, self-development includes improving my social skills. I have been living a healthy lifestyle for a while and I noticed that some people consider it weird when I drink water instead of beer, or eat veggies instead of hamburgers and shit.

The solution is to be confident about it. Show them you don't care, when they mock you. Show them you know what you're doing and that they are the ones who suck for not doing it.

As for the guy who says alternative medicine doesn't work... do you know how many people die of cancer, heart disease and other shit that is directly related to being "normal" ?

Too much self improvement doesn't leave a lot of time for hooking up, unless you are getting game at the gym and book store.

Hey man, if you want to go to the extreme with your self improvement then all the power to you. Some people will not like it but fuck em. Do what you think you really want to do especially if it makes you happy. Your friends are doing the same thing just on the other end of the spectrum. Ultimately I think that you should be around like minded people. When I stopped being a drunk, I had to stop hanging around the people pumping me full of drinks on a nightly basis. It was a personal choice that they either had to accept or not. It doesn't matter what you do or how you choose to get to where you are going. What matters is what is important to you.

Also, anti-social doesn't mean that you don't like to socialize, it means that you don't like the social norm. But in my opinion is that if your self improvement start to withdraw you from society, then it's a problem. Do what you need to but stay in contact with the outside world as much as possible.

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"I'm not a player, I just know how to quickly and efficiently remove a woman from my life when I figure out that she isn't good for me. If everyone has a soulmate out there somewhere, then I'm on a mission to find mine"

This is what I aim to do. No one likes a show off, so I tend to avoid the conversation instead of seeking it.

However when attending for example a round of predrinks at a homies apartment before hitting the city, people notice me not drinking and smoking cigarettes and ask about it as I roll up yet another spliff. And they ask a question of which they do not want the answer because it makes them feel less of themselves.

Drunk alphas tend to get offended and hostile. Which is an annoying situation when you are sober, and not in the mood to fight them but at the same time wouldn't have the slightest trouble mobbing the floor with the face of the moron.
I am not getting game at the gym or at the book store.
Training at home or with bars for 20 minutes a day is more than enough to apply yourself with the body of an olympic god; considering you know your anatomy.

Also E-books are the new black I heard, and I read them on my little fancy tablet-thingy, 30 minutes in the morning to awaken my head, as well as a reading session in the evening to calm me down before entering the world of lucid dreaming.

But on the topic of leaving time for hooking up; I got a 25 hours week work which is spent in the street talking to strangers. That is about as many phone numbers as it is hours, but I only do it for the sake of fun, and only call up the 10's or an occasional 9,5.
I definetly need to cut off some contacts. You are product of the people you socialize with, and if their ambition is of less than yours then it'll be counterproductive to your endgame.

The shame is that I would like to help some of these people. Some have potential but are ruining themselves and I witness decay in their personalities as their weekendjunkie thing, turn into a everydayjunkie thing.

But then again, if I gave them some real food for thought they'd probably reject it, like babies given food not ready to digest it.

its not really antisocial however if you either do too much of it and lose your social life then it becomes anti-social. the other part is if that becomes all you talk about.

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life sucks and then you die! deal with it

Ummm, how can I put this?

These two are very very strange.

Pharmaceuticals are not evil or unnatural in any way. Nowadays we have a better understanding of how the body works and we can synthesize the substances needed to improve health, normally the same as you find in herbs anyway.

Flouride toothpaste? The flouride is helping your teeth keep strong. How toothpaste can affect your brain is beyond me.

Apart from that you are not being anti-social. You are developing yourself and that happens sometimes in life. Your friends can either accept you for who you are even if who you are is a guy who changes to become stronger. They dont have to understand or sympathise, just accept that it is your choice. Some wont accept it and whatever, they may be part of your old life and may give up their space for your new friends.

Friends come and go, that is the plain truth, good friends stay with you no matter what but the others are just people you fit while your life looked in a certain way for a certain time.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Flouride is healthy for you in the way that it prolongs the life of your teeth and it eliminates plaque, however it is also a toxic and a regular use of flouride toothpaste not only lowers your brain functioning, but it's also hurtful to your liver.

If there wasn't an alternative, then I'd keep on using it, wouldn't want to look like a freakshow with a rotten mouth.
But I stumpled upon a very satisfying alternative, a product called Theodent which relies on rennou which is extracted from cocoa. It has also whitened my teeth more than any colgate or whatever toothpaste, so I'm sticking with it.

As for the pharamaceuticals, I see my body as an ecological enviroment that is selfsustainable, therefor I don't "medicate" myself with western medicine. I prefer to Smoke Good, Eat Good, Live Good and hopefully the placebo effect will take care of the rest.

oh dear lord, the placebo effect? That's like praying for a cure to a disease. The placebo effect means NOTHING IS ACTUALLY IMPROVING.

I can think my body is a pile of sand, doesn't make it true. And this is where self-improvement goes awry: when common sense vanishes. *points back to his definition of alternative medicine*

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These hos ain't loyal

It doesnt matter what you see your body as, it is a biological machine and when there is something wrong with it, it needs medication. Now, many herbs are as effective as some medications and I dont dis chinese medicine but not all of it is as good as western medicine. You body consists of cells and it is not a choice or a matter of belief, it just is like that. Placebo effect, yes that is a powerful effect, however it is not a miracle. If you break your leg, it is gonna be broken no matter how hard you wish for it to magically heal up.
This is science, not religion.

Show me the study where they show that toothpaste is harmful and I may consider believing you.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn