ever since I was little I have always had girls attracted to me and I think that If I just knew how to defend myself from amogs and know how to show that Iam really the Best Alpha Male I would be having sex right now. and I feel that once I learn how to know how to defend and amog other amogs I will be getting laid like crazy!!!

I can get any girl attracted to me and have my whole life, but then amogs have come and amoged me and have made me feel like crap. Whenever Im gaming a girl I think about, what she might do once she sees that I dont know how to defend myself from amogs?, and its the MAIN thing that is affecting my game. Seriously guys please help me.

Either
A. Make friends with them or
B. Ignore them, which sounds tough but might not always be

What do these guys try and beat you up or what? Is there a situation that seems to keep happening?

Whenever I get amoged I dont know how to respond. ive noticed that I just smile or laugh, Ive always tryed to make friends with them but noticed that it usually doesnt work. Iam confident that if anybody ever tryed to pick a fight with me ill be able to kick their ass cus Ive taken Karate, Ive done boxing, and kickboxing.But I still get amoged

Kick boxing boxing etc doesnt really have much to do with it Im afraid.
There are two ways to amog someone - physically or socially.
Touch. They come over then pat them on the back. You are perfectly comfortable and tbh beating them into shape.
your body language plays a big part. and your voice. loud and clear.
Be nice. In fact be so nice that they are uncomfortable. They will not live up to your expectations. etc.
Dude you are a really cool guy. We all enjoy your company here man. Your cool.
He will feel uncomfortable. His body language will show it.

If youve read the venusian artists handbook - dont pay attention to whatever mystery says about touching the girl lots when the alpha enters the set. Its protective, its giving her your value and breaking your frame cuz it shows that you are working for her validations. Instead as he enters say - DUDE! Thank god youve come your a star! Please get this girl off me man! Take her into the corner or something she wont leave me alone!

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V1V nailed it the way I usually deal with AMOGs is to befriend them, or be so nice it is weird. Asking for a hug is a classic, as is the temporary ditch of the set, where you focus almost entirely on the guy creating almost a takeaway environment.

But as people are saying you can make friends or try to out do them, the way I see it the more alpha friends you have the less amount of guys that will interrupt a set and it is a nice bit of social proof.

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I usually just ignore them. They're not helping the vibe I'm trying to maintain, so they have no place in the set. No need to give them the spotlight.

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Not really understanding why this issue is so important to you. If you meet a girl at a park, chat, get her number, take her out, bring her home, then you get freaky . . . who's trying to get in your way?

If you're at a bar, you see a girl, you chat, get her number, take her out, bring her home, then get freaky, who's trying to get in your way?

There's something wrong with your logistics if you're running into to so many situations where guys are stepping all over you. . . or there's got to be something you're doing that is giving "green" lights" for idiots to jump all over you. Tell us some more about what's going on . . .

I ran into 1 situation in the last 6 months. That's about it. While I was chatting up two (college)ladies at a bar, a well built youngster came up to me and told me, "These ladies are with me. You can't talk to them."

Ha ha ha ha . . .ha . .ha ha ha. . . I literally laughed for a few seconds and I couldn't even talk for a while . . . My first question staring at him seriously now, "Kid . . . how old are you?"

I think he said, "Doesn't matter . . . they're with me . . ."

"Well, whether I talk to them or not is up to me. Whether they talk to me or not is up to them. Whether you want to continue making yourself look like an ass is up to you. I suggest you fuck off to your mommy now." (and I shooed him off as if he was an unwanted panhandler.) When he didn't budge and began looking away . . . I kept at it, "Hey kid, how'd you get into this bar? . . . What? Is your play station broken tonight? Get the fuck outta here . . ."

There were a BUNCH of guys around the bar. A few got nervous but 1 guy laughed his ass off. . .

The kid got all nervous and began gluing himself to his lady friends telling them, "Let's get out of here." Over, over, and over again." At first, the girls felt they had to stand their ground too. They tried to ignore him and continue our conversation but finally they scurried off together.

I went overboard for sure and when they left, all the guys . . . even the nervous ones were laughing and tossing me high fives but I felt terrible about it. I don't know . . . there was something about this little prick that triggered my carnivorous instincts. Anyways . . . the point is it's better avoiding any of this crap. Something is wrong if you're faced with these situations enough to worry about it.

I dont know its probably a psychological issue that I have. You see im still in high school and getting amoged is something I know ill have to face, its just that I know I need to learn how to handle amogs. I think I get amoged because well Ive seen that amogs see me a threat.

I know this because the kid in the classroom thats not a threat to them (the kid thats always smiling and looks and acts like a beta male) they usually like him and over complement him, its weird but the way that they complement him kinda sounds like they are making fun of him.

Now me Ive noticed that whenever I get amoged its because they are usually jelouse of, jelouse that their girl likes me, jelouse that im more good looking than them, jelouse that I have nicer clothes, more friends etc,

But from reading your guys posts I realize that I should probably stop worrying about it.

Just ignore them!

I've got the perfect response for this. I was at a Christmans party recently with some work buddies and one of the HB9s I work with was with her boyfriend, standing at the bar (because she loved being the centre of Social Attention, wanted or otherwise).

Her boyfriend was about 5"6 not very tall, and standing behind his HB9 girlfriend was a group of eight males all staring at her arse, making sexist sexual comments.
As well as conveying the message that NOT ONE of these males could attract a female to come out with them, they were also disqualifying themselves by showing too much interest.

First off ignore the above advice, as by befriending or AMOGING the amogs you are making a social alignment with EVOLUTIONARY LOSERS.
This is a big no no. In fact never ever back up ANYONE who doesn't respect you intially as they will just stab you in the back later when you need them the most.

As for what to do about their advances? Ignore them, simple as. Yeah its a pain in the arse, yeah its anti-social behaviour.
But if you watch other guys who are good with women, their girlfriends get patted on the ass by guys day in day out.
Adam Lyons himself said he cannot leave his girlfriend alone for 5 minutes without someone making advances on her. However he knows that she knows, what hte guy is trying to do. She may flirt with the "agressor", will give out her phone number and promise to call.
However both AFC Adam and Amanda know there's a 99% chance it will be just that and nothing else.

In the xample of the XMAS party the boyfriend saw his girlfriends arse being patted, but because neither he nor she reacted the AMOGS were looking for a "reaction" however because it never came- they eventually quit and left the bar........

Look at the girl, roll your eyes and mouth "what a tool"

problem solved

SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY!!!

If you are worried about guys coming into your set, what do you think is going to happen? You are going to subcommunicate all the little things that other people will pick up on and see that they have an opportunity to break into your set.

I RARELY get amoged. If you have the girl attracted, and totally into you, no guy is going to come into your set because they will think you are boyfriend and girlfriend.

But if she is standing there uneasy because she can tell you are subconsciously looking over your shoulder waiting to come into your set, she'll be weirded out, and others will pick up on this.

Another big thing that helps students is to GET MORE PHYSICAL!

If you are holding some girl by the hips or CLAWing her in, again it will look like you are BF/GF and no one will enter your sets.

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This is kind of my expertise, really you just gotta insult, but with self defense. And sort of a kidding-type of insult.

Like John Blaze says in one of his audios: and i can't remember who it was but i remember someone saying that you should put your arm on their shoulder to show dominance, i can't remember who said this but i remember them comparing it to like, if you were to meet bill clinton, would you put your arm around him?

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oh, another thing was, i also forget who said this, i think it was a poster on this forum. It went like...

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haha i read that too