There is a saying that goes "When the Student is Ready, the Teacher will appear." The Ishaya Tradition is the Tradition that for "all" that wish to know the true nature of the Self, it will be known. Truth is always provided for those who are sincere in their willingness to leave behind what they think they know, and open to receiving what lies beyond their present experience....or something like that.

A lot of newbies are in trouble. I really want to help them out cause people get excited when they first find out about pick up, and its hard to be disappointed at something that held so much hope.

So, since I've been helping out some of my friends, I came up with some things that might make the whole process of learning this stuff easier, and effectively prevent guys from dropping out.

1. Try to figure out where are you.

You need to know what to fix before repairing anything. Learning a method like MM is good to know how the whole process takes place (helps people that is completely clueless). But if your problems are confidence, conversational skill or nervousness you need to fix that first.

There are a lot of guys studying different methods, and they cant even talk to people... how is that kind of guy going to open a set. Learn to Crawl Before Trying to Run.

2. There's no such thing as an AFC

As I wrote on a different thread: "You are not an AFC, you cant be such a thing. That concept of being AFC is one of the more harmful things in the community. Because you are justifying your behavior."

Being an AFC is being inferior, second class thinking and doing wont help anyone in any field. Guys who read game often are feeling bad about their sexual lifes, they read about AFCs and feel worse cause no one wants to be the geek, and guess what: everybody is telling them they are.

Some guys cant even address issues properly because they are feeling like shit. The reason; they think that if they dont have a girl in their arm they are AFCs. So instead of trying to cope with AA, they freeze up. I've seen my share of emotional breakdowns on clubs...

3. Allow yourself to be Johnny Bravo for a while.

For those of you who didn't had a childhood:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw8dfCvw9jk[/youtube]

Failing a pick up is not the end of the world: It can be quite funny. Go out as many times as needed and be Johnny Bravo.

Aproach every girl on the club with crazy "There's no way this is going to work" lines. Some of those might hit...who knows.

This works because you will get used to the nighlife scene, to aproach girls in loud enviroments, and most importantly: to have fun in clubs. I've seen grown men get scared of clubs.

Last night I went out on a "Johnny Bravo Rampage" I aproached most of the girls at the party, and got only 2 phone numbers...I'm not ashamed of my poor performance, I had massive amounts of fun, and thats what its all about.

4. Deal with your issues.

Why are you getting into this? Are you sure its for all the right reasons? There is some kind of emotional thing that is keeping you from getting somewhere?

Ask those questions to yourself frequently, try to be always watching and monitoring the way you feel. Maybe you are not getting laid because something is wrong with you, try to get help, even professional help if needed. You need to be able to walk in the world mentally and emotially healthy.

5. Its not a big deal: Have fun.

Read this: the-most-important-thing-about-pick-up- ... highlight=

Edit: Is not like a sequential thing, I'm not sure if there is an order, it depends on the person

About the Johnny Bravo thing, he is a inner game role model too. Try to act that way too, for fun (C&F).

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Kalle Lasn

"Motherfuckers best belive in....That you are fucking with the best" - 3oh!3

Teasing is a battle plan for what Shakespeare called “the merry war.”

Excellent post. I agree with everything you said.

I would like to add a couple quick points.

1) Read as much as you can and internalize it. Don't buy anything until you have exhausted all of your free resources. Not all, but many seduction guides are free information that just has been put into a pretty format.

PM me if you want a link to a good free E-Book to get started

2)Put what you read into action. Without practice, you will never improve. It's just like a sport. You can read about all the rules and plays and techniques, but until you actually put in the practice, you will never improve. I know guys who know more about the game than most people will ever know but they have no actual game. put it into PRACTICE. Experience is the best way to improve

I'm not sure about that one. Reading a lot helps, but a better way to get started (especially for some) is to read little bits and put them in action right away.

I wanted to point out the things that no one ever says to newbies, the things that might get you stuck for a while (or forever).

I liked what you said Enigma, cause newbies need to practice. I tried to help them get to practice, Johnny Bravo right?.

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"[Cool is] a heavily manipulative corporate ethos. ”
Kalle Lasn

"Motherfuckers best belive in....That you are fucking with the best" - 3oh!3

Teasing is a battle plan for what Shakespeare called “the merry war.”

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ka19kbAsU[/youtube]

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"[Cool is] a heavily manipulative corporate ethos. ”
Kalle Lasn

"Motherfuckers best belive in....That you are fucking with the best" - 3oh!3

Teasing is a battle plan for what Shakespeare called “the merry war.”

Failing is the best way to get over AA, and using terrible lines sometimes is the best way to do it because you wont get the occasional sense of false success with a fake number, or a flaker.

This whole post is pretty top grade stuff especially the Johnny Bravo Vid lol.

By the way...Im not the guy in the second vid.

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"[Cool is] a heavily manipulative corporate ethos. ”
Kalle Lasn

"Motherfuckers best belive in....That you are fucking with the best" - 3oh!3

Teasing is a battle plan for what Shakespeare called “the merry war.”

I think the first step should be to at least get a sense of who you are before you proceed with picking up girls. Because if you have not even a clue to who you are, then what are the chances of girls getting who you are?
I disagree with that there is no such thing as an AFC. But then an AFC to me is a guy that plays into the girls frame. I agree with the rest of what you said about AFC's tho.
I am not sure if pretending to be Johnny is the best, but I see what your saying tho. As I would go with Rambo or Rocky or even one of the characters from the Godfather. But that is just me.

Failing also is the best way to see what works for you and doesn't work. I don't think failing is the best way to get over AA, as after awhile of no numbers and always failing its going to get to the person psychologically. I would think it is better to take up a speech class as well as start random conversations with people, and acting out in public, to get over AA.

Well, jurupa...I just inserted numbers in there to make the whole thing look pretty (even bold text!!), I didn't meant it to be like an ordered step by step guide to do things.

I posted all the stuff I think people is not saying to newbies, is not like i'm pretending that what I wrote is like the only thing...but is good to know some of those points

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"[Cool is] a heavily manipulative corporate ethos. ”
Kalle Lasn

"Motherfuckers best belive in....That you are fucking with the best" - 3oh!3

Teasing is a battle plan for what Shakespeare called “the merry war.”

It seem like it was a step program or something. My bad.
I am not saying you where pretending to know everything. I was just responding to what you said thats all. It is certainly a good "startup" guide for new people. And I think it be worth while to expand on it and cover more general topics for new people.

I made a mistake on this thread, here is it:
Thats not a good idea. There are better ways of dealing with fear, of social situations and even fear from women. You dont need to act like a weirdo to demolish your fears and negative programation. Doing stupid things in front of girls (or men) is just showing off, and might be counterproductive.

Stop doing stupid stuff.

I'm telling you this cause I thought that acting like Johnny Bravo helped overcome fear of failure. It just desensitizes yourself from failure, It doesnt necessarily makes you more sucessful with women. And its weird.

I acted like Johnny Bravo for a while, due to ignorance and lack of experience, but since I've been helping out guys, I discovered that is not a good idea to make people act weird, weird behavior sticks around.

Besides, I'm trying to teach people how to be more sucessful with women, not how to be "failure comedians". I dont wanna see people saying to girls "Nice shoes, wanna fuck?" again in my life.

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"[Cool is] a heavily manipulative corporate ethos. ”
Kalle Lasn

"Motherfuckers best belive in....That you are fucking with the best" - 3oh!3

Teasing is a battle plan for what Shakespeare called “the merry war.”