I'm just going off of my own experience and psychology here. I am either attracted to a girl to a certain extent, or I'm not. While the attraction can increase or decrease, the only thing that can change my attraction is a bad personality flaw, which usually rules out the friend zone as well (but not always). If you take friend zone meaning people one simply would not consider a match for physical or psychological reasons, but still don't mind spending some time with, then it does exist. But if that is a friend zone, I don't think you can fall into it simply by acting like a friend. I have had girls who I consistently treat only as friends not put me into the friend zone, even though I was trying to be put in it because they were in my friend zone.

Unless you exhibit an actual flaw, I think you're safe from the friend zone. So the friend zone as far as something you get into by being "too nice" doesn't exist. Thats just an illusion caused by a woman thinking that YOU aren't interested. If a girl thinks of you as ONLY a friend, its because she feels no attraction due to some flaw she sees in you.

I assume you are talking about a physical flaw or at least some static personality flaw, and not something that person did specifically within the interaction. Friend zone is what happens when you gain comfort and interest, without attraction. Attraction from a man's perspective is a split second visual judgment which yields an instant yes or no. From a woman's perspective, attraction has to be built by displaying high status through sub-textual communication. You could be a really fun, interesting, and good looking guy, but if you having boring conversation, do not look her in the eye, do not touch her, and do not display alpha-male characteristics, she will not feel attraction for you. You CAN fall into the friend zone, and once there it is really hard to get out.

Looking at it from a psychological standpoint, there is still reason for this. I assume you have heard of the lover vs. provider argument yes? Basically women want providers (nice, supplicating men who entertain them) to improve their survival chances in life. This is why they LJBF 'nice guys' and also why many of them marry rich impotent business moguls. They have no attraction for these men because they are not displaying the characteristics of lover, but they still want them in their lives to make living easier. These girls will hang out with you all the time, cry on your shoulder, tell you about this 'jerk' who used her for sex (the lover) and accept all the fine gifts and comfort that you supplicate to her. If you make yourself out to be someone who will make some girl's life better, but at the same time do not make yourself attractive to her, you can and will get friend zoned.

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But thats just the thing. If you don't look her in the eye and have boring conversation, you won't fall in her "friend zone". You'll fall into her "that one guy I know" zone. Who wants a boring friend?

As for touching, that intensifies attraction, but I don't think not touching can kill it unless its extreme not touching.

Take a healthy and fit man and woman of the same age. I will use 18 as an example. Genetically, they are not made to be apart. They have the tools needed to complete their meaning of life. Yet he still falls in the friendzone. Why??? Think about it.

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I disagree with the original post. In fact I often (perhaps incorrectly) view my DAY game as simply a pursuit to avoid "friendzone". I believe if I take every step and make every correct move to avoid "friendzone", then I will automatically get laid. (Assuming I don't get blown out, but I never get blown out once I'm passed the opener.)

It is my belief that every human interaction has a purpose. If you serve no purpose to the HB, you are nothing to them. For most HB's, a guy will either serve the purpose of love-making or as comfort-givers. I frequently see some of my mates hugged by the hottest girls and they think they are in there, but they never get any from these girls. Yet they never come up to me to hug me because they know I'm a harder target. And I get laid with them.

My friends here are being used as comfort-givers =). They are friendzoned. Why would a hot girl want to get laid with them when they can get laid with someone much more interesting and hot? Therefore, these people that they do not get laid with, but they keep around for comfort, must be 'friendzoned'.