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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:08 pm 
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This is just a statement on Negs.

I have noticed that in this community, everyone is focused on dropping negs. I read some ridiculous openers, and they always encompass some way to "neg" her...and the way they play it out in their minds and in their posts, the girl responds well to it.

My advice is to hold off on the negs. Most people don't know how to properly deliver them and they just end up insulting girls. They walk away from a conversation that came to an abrupt halt and think "I got her good with that neg." Not to mention, they are meant to be given to girls who exceptionally hot with a seemingly impenetrable bitch shield. Guys are going around "negging" girls that are hardly a 6 or 7 on a true scale...girls who don't even need negs to get them into bed.

I don't compliment women....but in the average bar, I would put my money on a compliment winning over a girl rather than some sabotaged version of a neg.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:00 pm 
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This is just a statement on Negs.

I have noticed that in this community, everyone is focused on dropping negs. I read some ridiculous openers, and they always encompass some way to "neg" her...and the way they play it out in their minds and in their posts, the girl responds well to it.

My advice is to hold off on the negs. Most people don't know how to properly deliver them and they just end up insulting girls. They walk away from a conversation that came to an abrupt halt and think "I got her good with that neg." Not to mention, they are meant to be given to girls who exceptionally hot with a seemingly impenetrable bitch shield. Guys are going around "negging" girls that are hardly a 6 or 7 on a true scale...girls who don't even need negs to get them into bed.

I don't compliment women....but in the average bar, I would put my money on a compliment winning over a girl rather than some sabotaged version of a neg.
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I don't mind anything about negs, because they are very useful tool, however there is a limit of healthy mindset when using them and it is not over negging that is the problem, it is the the way negs are designed (over insulting).
I think most people, who were ''nice guy'' type at the beginning, they take neg theory as the base for their game and ultimatly end up being a dork.
There is nothing wrong with using negs on all girls, but you must be aware, that you won't attract a girl if you neg her one her defect or something.

e.g.: She is fat and you neg her by saying: ''You should lost some weight.'' That is wrong, you can neg her on something more general, like: ''You must have driven your parents/boyfriend/mum crazy.'' And it hits an attraction spike a lot better ;)

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There is nothing wrong with using negs on all girls, but you must be aware, that you won't attract a girl if you neg her one her defect or something.
This is one area where I disagree. You shouldn't use negs on all girls...or even most girls. Mystery made them a big deal in The Game and in his M3 model...but he is hitting on model type girls. I can walk into most bars here in Boston, pick out the most attractive girl in the room, and still find it unnecessary to neg her to close.

The idea behind a neg is that the woman has higher value, and you are using a back handed comment to knock her down a peg...making her vulnerable to being hit on. I don't doubt that it works in a setting with very, very good looking and high status type women. I like to use the mindset that a woman, no matter how good looking, never has a higher value than I do. I display higher value by being confident and assertive.

I understand the concept of negging. I could argue that it could work if used correctly. My point is that you will most likely make more ground if you don't use them at all. If you don't need to neg a girl, then why would you? She is already open to conversation...

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There is nothing wrong with using negs on all girls, but you must be aware, that you won't attract a girl if you neg her one her defect or something.
This is one area where I disagree. You shouldn't use negs on all girls...or even most girls. Mystery made them a big deal in The Game and in his M3 model...but he is hitting on model type girls. I can walk into most bars here in Boston, pick out the most attractive girl in the room, and still find it unnecessary to neg her to close.

The idea behind a neg is that the woman has higher value, and you are using a back handed comment to knock her down a peg...making her vulnerable to being hit on. I don't doubt that it works in a setting with very, very good looking and high status type women. I like to use the mindset that a woman, no matter how good looking, never has a higher value than I do. I display higher value by being confident and assertive.

I understand the concept of negging. I could argue that it could work if used correctly. My point is that you will most likely make more ground if you don't use them at all. If you don't need to neg a girl, then why would you? She is already open to conversation...
There is no need to use a neg as a lowering girl's value tool, all you do when you are negging (or you can call it ''teasing'' :D) is to show her, that you are playful, you're not too serious and you can make a joke or take a joke, if she throws one back at you.

I uderstand what you're saying with M3 and it is true, what Mystery uses is only for high value girls/beautys/10s... and you could easily insult HB6 or HB7 with that, which is not what any PUA wants.

Besides you only use negs when you try to attract a girl (showing that you're fun and stimulating her emotions), eventually in comfort, you bring that down and start to qualify/rapport and escelate... ;)

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