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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:32 pm 
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Hey all, i'll get straight down to it. I don't want to just hook up with a girl, for a few reasons, but that's all I really know how to do. I know that to do that I can either just do it circumstantially or invite a girl over for a movie and get in or get rejected. Pretty much every sexual experience i've had were one time things. I haven't had a real relationship since like 7th grade, and those began with i like you i like you too okay were together.

How do I get an actual relationship? I have a few girls I'm interested in and at least two of them return it somewhat, but I don't know how to continue and not get the just one night hook up. I'm hoping I don't have to get all wierd and lay it out pat, like I want us to be together for real and ****. What are things I can do?

Also, I need ideas for what to do with girls I'm interested in. I live in the suburbs and there isn't a lot happening around here. The closest entertainment is a movie theatre a half hour away (in a car, which I don't have) in another town. It's getting mad cold so walking around isn't good anymore either. There's a cafe, a bunch of food places and shops around, but no activities or entertainment. So with girls (alone) I can invite them over for a movie or to just chill, one is alright but I don't like too much and just chilling could get awkward/boring.

Quick advice is porfavored, as I may need it soon. With winter sports started my only spare time is Friday nights and Saturday/Sunday every other weekend.


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im ganna copy and paist a whole chapter from magic bullets thats mystery method.

*edited for posting copyrighted material*


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i thought posting copwrithted material was cool as long as we cited it?


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3. Be lawful.
Give credit where it is due. Cite any copyrighted material and don't talk about downloading stuff illegally. We don't want to hear about your adventures with underage girls, either.
did i not cite it when I said :here this is from magic bullets, that's the mystery method? or maybe it was when I provided a link to the website www.magicbullets.com hmm or is the problem the fact that this was a clear concise answer to his question that could help him years down the road?


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3. Be lawful.
Give credit where it is due. Cite any copyrighted material and don't talk about downloading stuff illegally. We don't want to hear about your adventures with underage girls, either.
did i not cite it when I said :here this is from magic bullets, that's the mystery method? or maybe it was when I provided a link to the website www.magicbullets.com hmm or is the problem the fact that this was a clear concise answer to his question that could help him years down the road?
I can't directly speak for him/her, but the moderator that edited out your post probably did it because you were directly quoting a large section from an ebook that you would normally have to pay money to read and you were providing the material without permission from the distributor.

If you were to quote just a few certain lines and write your own interpretation of the material, it could help the OP and abide by the rules at the same time.

Now, let's get back on topic.


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I don't know much about theory on this topic, but for myself it seems that girls fall for me when I do nothing but being the cool guy. Having fun together, doing sports, eating, NO sexual comments/jokes... :?
And not show any interest but in just being friends...

Got my last gf on relaxing vacation. We became friends, then did fun stuff with another guy (everyday). The guy was the same as me! Outgoing, stylish, fun to be around, better looking than me. He just made sexual jokes sometimes, talking about alcohol and stuff. In the end she was into me and told, she didn't like the other guy at all.

The girlfriend before I got in tennis lessons when I acted the same... befriends with her, have nice talk, eat with her (and other guys). I mean, there were 5 guys for 1 girl. So why me?

I'd love to hear more about getting into relationships! For me it just worked to be cool, funny, spontaneous, outgoing... no negs, no routines, no games :?


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Sammme! I can always hook up but find it difficult to get a girlfriend (N)

I Havent Had One Since Year 9!

Obvs Still In High School But Is There Any Theory To This?


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Yeah i'm finding it hard aswell


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Ive got problems getting a girlfriend too :(

I don't know about you guys, but damn, I don't think its fair or even functional to keep being C&F when you're trying to starting something deeper

Im in trouble with this right now, I don't consider myself AFC and etc
Im gaming a girl and I want her to be my girlfriend, we're doing good, but there's like 10 AFCs on her feet... sometimes I think of leaving her a nice message, showing more interest etc... but when I look her scrapbook its full of fucking afcs and I give up


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I'd love to hear more about getting into relationships! For me it just worked to be cool, funny, spontaneous, outgoing... no negs, no routines, no games :?
Yeah I guess I'd agree with this guy. Its kinda funny actually because I started learning PUA techniques and my soon to be GF comes into my world and we got together not because I was the MPUA, but because I was myself. Geniune me.

A friend I am tutoring in pick up said to me, "Wow man, you are the best. I totally believe this stuff now. You implimented it and it worked for you."
Its a shame I had to shatter his false reality and tell him that i was actually being sincere the whole time, but he is a WIP. This art has helped me be less socially awkward though so its not like it didnt help me at all.

Now that I have a girlfriend, I dont really know what to do now though.


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But thats just the thing, "you" isnt you anymore, your just being what you've learnt to do but stopped running routines, its become so natural its unnatural. get me?


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learn only from people who HAVE girlfriends and relationships that are like what you want.

in the PUA world, I can't think of too many guys who are in happy, monogamous relationships. Scot McKay is married. I have been with one girlfriend at a time for most of my life, and am with a great girl now.

Most PUAs can only teach the pickup part, cos that's as far as they go. I wouldn't turn to MM to learn how to get a girlfriend, cos that's not what they do, as far as I know. If you want to learn to meet girls in VIP sections of clubs, they have lots to offer.

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Chief, it's one page.

By MLA (Modern Language Association) standards that is a long quote.

here I will even make a goddamn citation card.
Savoy, Nick. Magic Bullets. San Francisco: Love systems, 2007.


Women will often assume that this is where your relationship is going, especially if you sleep together more than once, unless either of you say or do something to imply
otherwise. This may seem strange on the surface. Most of your sexual encounters have probably not led to Traditional Relationships. This is because people often do “say or do something to imply otherwise”. This can be subtle. For example, if she mentions other men or dates at any point of your interaction after the first hour or so, she’s probably not ready for a Traditional Relationship at that point. If you have a “party” vibe about you and never seem to get serious, she may assume the same about you. Let’s assume that you do want a Traditional Relationship. Monogamy happens when both people are more interested in building something together than they are in exploring other people. Put
another way, monogamy happens when both people are more worried about losing the other than they are about losing their freedom.
Developing this kind of closeness is primarily based on emotional intimacy. Comfort still applies in the Relationship phase. The most important element for relationship-building is time spent together. If you can see her 2-3 times per week without her feeling smothered, you should
be in good shape. We go into how to do this below. To build this kind of intimacy, start in the Comfort phase . Vague, long-term plans based on
common interests are a great idea. Don’t push for actual plans during Comfort; planning is boring for many women and engages the logical side of the human brain instead of the emotional one. Personally, if I am
dating a woman who tells me she loves painting, I am likely to make vague plans with her to go to an art gallery. If we realize we both love ice hockey, I’ll comment on how we have to go to a game. If she wants
to be a better cook, then I’ll suggest we take a cooking class. Not only are you uncovering great date ideas,

but you also:
Reinforce her feelings that you and she have some exciting possibilities together.

Prompt her to imagine herself with you, in other contexts, in the future.

Imply that you see potential for a longer-term relationship with her.
After you sleep with her

If you want to make a woman your girlfriend, solidify your connection with her immediately after the first
time you sleep together. Stay over or invite her to stay over. Have breakfast together. Call her the next day.

Communicate to her by your actions that she’s not a one-night stand to you. But don’t be clingy. Don’t
send her flowers. And nothing feels clingier, literally, than someone trying to cuddle with you when you
want space.

Your actions should provide a clue to your intentions, but don’t expect the same from her. Women face a lot of guilt for enjoying their sexuality, and sometimes appear distant after sex the first time with someone
new, even when they feel connected to him. This is one of life’s little double standards. Before you feel sorry for yourself and your gender, think about what childbirth must be like. She’ll sort through her emotions
soon enough and show you how she really feels. In the meantime, if she wants distance, give her distance. If she wants to be close, be close.

Call the next day. This is an important call, and should not be awkward for her.

Here are some things to keep in mind:

The Next Day Call (Traditional Relationships)

Don’t call to “check in” with her.

Don’t refer to having had sex with her.

Call because something funny happened that you want to tell her about
or for any other reasonwhy you might have called her even if you hadn’t had sex the previous day.

Be the same natural, fun, and interesting person you were before you slept with her.

Don’t let awkward silences develop, or sound nervous or talk too much or too quickly. If you’re worried about awkward silences, cue up enough topics to talk about for at least an 8-10 minute conversation

Don’t rush into making plans unless she seems very warm and comfortable towards you on this
call.

End the call first if you can (it’s not the end of the world if you don’t).

You should usually save your invitation to see each other again for one of your next calls. If she sees you again after you’ve slept together, you’re well on your way. Use each time you see each other to discuss
mutual interests and upcoming events. Further dates will follow naturally out of these conversations. For example, say you’re both talking about your love for classical music. You mention that you were thinking
about checking out a concert in the park next Sunday. Unless she changes the subject, invite her along.
Now you have another date.

At some point, she should give off some indications that she’s committing to you. Here are some examples: She reserves part of her weekend for you, or wants to know what you’re doing on her days off so she can make her plans She suggests plans or trips

She introduces you to her friends more than once. Listen to how she introduces you and watch for how she acts around you. Remember, women lose social value if their friends perceive them as easy,
so she probably is not introducing multiple men (in a romantic context) to her friends.

If she hasn’t given any of these signals, be patient. Use the telephone to your advantage. Call her a couple
of times during the week, for about 10-20 minutes each time, to tell her something interesting that happened
to you or to check in on something specific in her life (e.g., if she’s recovered from being sick; how
her new job is going, etc.). It shows that you care and that you listen. Most of the usual telephone rules from


If this isn’t working, inject a note of competition. This is why I made the point earlier that people get into monogamous relationships when they are more worried about losing someone than they are about losing
their freedom. Mention exciting events that are happening in your life that just coincidentally make amusing stories and imply, without saying it explicitly, that other women are pursuing you. For example, when
discussing weekend plans, you can say something like “a friend of mine invited me to her cottage on the lake this weekend, so I might not have cell phone reception…so don’t miss me too much and I’ll call you
when I get back.” If she is interested in a commitment, she should bring up the idea of you as her boyfriend or ask you if you’re seeing other women. This is not a time for a jealousy plotline. Just be genuine here.

It‘s a rare woman who will see you 2-3 times per week and never refer to you as her boyfriend or initiate a discussion about the future. But if it happens, then the responsibility falls on you to say something like “I
feel funny bringing this up, but I realized we never actually talked about this. Are we supposed to be seeing other people?” Be emotionally neutral – and not nervous – when you say this. Don’t let her turn the question
back on you. You brought the subject up and you are asking about her perception of the current rules of the relationship. There’s no reason why she needs to hear your answer first. Remember, she needs to come to the conclusion herself that she doesn’t want to see other men and/or
that she’d rather give up the ability to see other men in return for knowing that you won’t see other women.

It’s important for her to decide this herself instead of being pressured by you. If you push her into a commitment
before she feels ready, you’re significantly adding to the likelihood that she’ll cheat on you later.
So let’s not do that.


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Long term relationships last because there is a belief that tomorrow, the relationship will still be just as strong if not stronger than it was today. Without this belief structure, the relationship crumbles. Maslov's pyramid of needs points out all the necessities of life like food, water, sex, shelter, social needs, but after this, our next need is the BELIEF that these things will continue to exist for us.

For this belief to exist, there has to be some commitment. There has to be some trust that in spite of some fights or irregularities in the relationship, the 2 will have some fortitude to work through problems and not just hop on any other hottie that walks by.

This is the problem with F closing a girl rather quickly from the time you meet her. Both parties can know through stories or gossip that you have one night stands but once you demonstrate to each other that you are capable of fucking somebody right after meeting them, there is always a fear that gets in the way of the long term. "He/she did it with me, what's in the way of him/her doing this again with somebody else?"

When you have that sweet talker who is not highly sexual. . . well, he might not get laid right away but that's the point. She feels that a person like this is less likely to cheat but even if he does, she knows that it's going to take him a while to get anything going. The belief is that before anything happens, things get patched up.

I'm not saying that this is the only factor but I do believe that the time it takes to F close after the first meeting plays a big role in the health of long term relationships. This is why girls who are looking for boyfriends play hard to get. This is why in the long run . . . really, the nice guys do finish first. Well as long as he's not dumb enough to shove the girl into the "friend's corner" for 5 years.


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Thanks guys! Really helpful.


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