Okay, for anyone who has ever sarged church-going, religious girls, what are your top sarging tactics?

I keep #-closing a bunch of christian girls (and I only find out they are regular churchgoers AFTERWARDS in early phone game), and they're always talking about their church. What's a good way to game them? Should you theoretically dangle your soul as bait? Or just pretend to be a really badass christian dude, the kind their fathers would not approve of if they really KNEW him?

Is kino any different here? How about escalating to the kiss? And should you EVER actually go to church with them? Or is that giving too much away?

please guys, post all your church girl routines and tips here.

I don't like to but acting like you're not christian helps. Acting like you have no religion but want to believe in some sort of G*d will make the girls feel apt to help and change you. I doubt if this will get you a k-close but it will definitely help you get closer to them. The whole bad-ass rebel against religion but willing to convert thing might work.

I've never tried it but who knows.

Same as any other girl... They have needs too! Do not go to church with them. Keep your own faith do not change anything for them. Just treat them like anybody else.

Ugh I know how you feel man... I live in Utah! Mormon heaven. Yeah i do what ^^they said by having no religion or w/e. Don't let them take you to church lol, thats like willing to "convert" for them. Some of them are impossible to get sexual with, others have been dying for it all along. Basically the same as most girls tho.

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depends on what type of christian girl u are talking about. there are the ultra, 'i wont put out until im married' ones. then there are the christian girls who put out but dont want to be put in the slut category so they keep it on the dl. finally there are the 'i go to church and consider my self a christian but i am a slut' christian girls. i would go for the in-between ones.

I can't even relate to this. Why would you want to enter this world unless you just want to nail some girl 'cause she's hot. There are plenty of fun girls with a lot less issues.

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"I am the Master of my unspoken words, and the Slave to those words that should have remained unsaid."

I can only speak for myself but you know sometimes I just want to nail a girl because she is hot. It is maybe not morally right but hey its me.

I'm not saying I don't enjoy this as well, but to me this is identical to the high pressure conversion trip some Christians lay on you. It's like a revenge sarge or something, and I don't see the value in supporting a bad mindset. I guess what I'm saying is "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." It's not just in the bible it's also karmicly unsound. Screwing with a person's spirituality is bad juju.

Let me ask this question instead. How do you build rapport with a person who's core beliefs you're try to undermine?

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Artax
Devil's Advocate

"You're only as young as the women you feel."
"I am the Master of my unspoken words, and the Slave to those words that should have remained unsaid."

Hey arent we getting a bit spiritual here. I do to others what I would like them to do to me. I want girls from any religion or whatever to wanna get down and dirty with me. Attraction is universal. The only issue is that you do not hurt the other person. If you want to discuss religion or convert them or make them your GF, THEN you are in trouble.

I do not care what religion she has, she could be christian or satanic for all I care, the only thing I care about is two (or more) people sharing a beautiful moment. Physical or mental. If there is something between me and a girl that is all I need. Then again I would not marry anyone else then an exceptional person but that is another story.

Treat her like any other girl

Just because shes christian doesnt mean shes some sort of immortal being thats harder to sarge than a playboy model. All it means is she belives in God.
Just because shes a christian doesnt neccesarily mean shes celebate (No sex before marriage) If she isnt thers nothing to worry about.

If she is find out if its just sex she wont do before marriage then work on getting the other things. Ive found religion means nothing.

Ive sarged plenty of christian girls most have been celebate but ive still managed to do everything but with them.

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Let's take this one step at a time.
I don't think it's spiritual to ask whether it is hurting someone to undermine their beliefs. If they are serious about their faith then do you really want to go there? The focus in this case is on you and what you want totally. Just take a sec and think about what she may want. Most religions teach to deny a part of their nature to achieve a goal, even if only temporarily.


Then we already in part agree, but you have to know where a person is coming from in order to know whether or not you are hurting them. This is the reason I like Johnny Soporno's message so much, showing a woman she has been given a raw deal by society and even religion is huge, but are you trying to do that or just trying to get laid? If that is all you want then you may just end up hurting her.
For some people their religion helps define who they are. So by saying you don't care what their religion is, is like saying you don't care about them. This is true for even neo-paganists. A beautiful moment for you, may be seen quite differently to her. This is the only reason I hate the "it's my reality" mentality. It promotes solipsism, which is antithetical to real rapport.

Still, I prefer to party with the girls who want to party. Why make it harder on yourself than it has to be?

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Artax
Devil's Advocate

"You're only as young as the women you feel."
"I am the Master of my unspoken words, and the Slave to those words that should have remained unsaid."

Dude. Why would you bring up religion, AT ALL?

Religion is a major buzzkill. Why don't you talk to them about their jobs, the government's latest policies, or the fine intricacies of chess?

I've had christian chicks before, and not just the on-off kind, I'm talking full-blown cultish, youth activities-and-going door to door to spread the word christians.

Just don't bring up religion.

For Christ' sakes!

-Rex Parliament, he who shows thee the way

You misunderstand...

We do not push girls into anything. We do not undermine their religion. We do not try to change them.

But, if they are up for it I say why not.

I respect every single person I meet and if they do not want to have a relation to/with me it is their loss. I do not chase or trick anyone into anything. But if they want to, I welcome them with open arms (if I like them). No, I do not promote destroying anyones belief just to get laid. I promote: Present what you got to give and let her make the decision to take it or leave it. A girl is not helpless in a sarge. No matter how much attraction and comfort you build she always has the right to say no and we respect a no.

When I say that I do not care what religion they have I mean that their religion is their own problem (or pleasure). I assume that if their religion causes any problems with having a relation, then they tell me. And I wont push it. I only game people who are old enough to take their own responsibility. If she wants to abandon her religious beliefs for a hot night with a PUA then that is her problem.

Yes I have the my world attitude. I know what I want and if people want to be a part of my world they are welcome to step into it.

Bottom line. If I can be the sweet looking strawberry I will. If you wanna eat me then it is up to you to know if you are allergic or not.

It depends on how old they are, and what their personalities are like. I find church game about 100 times easier when it comes to opening-comfort but when you start getting into seduction half of them are not as committed to the church as you might think. to be honest it feels like about half of them just want someone to seduce them all along and the others are waiting for marriage. Lots of virgins because simply being inside a church runs off most guys that have game, at least that is in highschool.

I started my sarging career within a youthgroup and I still continue it even to this day. it is free practice. if there is one room in this goddamn world I can work it is within one of the youth groups inside my city. i can walk in any youthgroup in our city and I know exactly what to do to be superstar. This happens because I capitalize on regular church friendliness. Most people walk into a church find a new guy and go introduce themselves so they can try to witness to them or some shit like that. I capitalized on this from day one its like social proof given to you on a platter just because you are new. so just walk around and TALK to everyone telling them your new and asking them whats up and eventually girls will just start walking up to you and even giving you hugs in extreme circumstances just because IT SEEMS like you know everyone.

If nothing else in this world I know what im talking about when it comes to church game.

Ive been out with sooo many girls within the church I rely mostly on the whole locker room situation I understand all of them will talk all about me throughout the week so I will treat them all really good. i have yet to sleep with any of them but thats just because i suck, not because they weren't willing.


oh yeah this is a big problem for me about 3/4 of them already have steady long term relationships and i've been dicked over soo many times like you've got way better game then most of the church goers see so they will become entranced within your little aurora that you create and non of them will tell you that they have a boyfriend (this applies to girls of all ages within the church.) unless you ask point-blank. all their boyfriends are just boring run of the mill church guys that just suck. Girls won't make mention of them because there is nothing interesting to say about them.

they best character you can have is you are the fun guy that goes to church but doesn't really talk about what they learned there. you know how to go have fun but you dont have to drink or smoke in order to have fun. that way you appeal to the parents, the leaders and the kids. the problem with the bad boy routine is most of the church leaders will spot you as a phony immediately and your social proof will decline without their acceptance. this has happened to me when one of the leaders gets the crazy idea that you just go there to start partying and disappearing with girls then they will spread word.

+1 for mrfickle

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