There are a million things that get guys stuck, but most trace back to these 5 areas I'm going to talk about.

1.) Not making this fun/viewing this as work.

-A lot of times guys will say, "Man I've gotta put the work in tonight". From the get go you're starting off with the wrong mindset. You have to have the mindset of making this fun to get anywhere. Think about a lot of the things in life we stall out at:

-work, exercise, diet, relationships

Most of the time we give up on these because we don't know how to make them fun. Mix things up, have a good time. We're going out and talking to women, that's awesome. Think of the end result. Think about fucking a 10 in the penthouse over looking the Vegas strip. Now that's kick ass.

2.) Not having goals/not journaling

-When I say goals, I say proper goals. "Getting better with women" is not a goal. Fucking 10 girls is. Trying to kiss a girl within 60 seconds is a goal. These have to be physically measurable goals.

-Most guys don't journal. Most guys are in this for years and don't get better. Everyone I know who is very good at this stuff keeps a journal. This was by far the best thing I did on my journey. I still journal every time I go out. Journal every set. List what went well and what stalled you out. You'll start to see patters over time and you won't constantly wonder what is holding you back. It will be right in front of you.

3.) Over-Bantering

-Sometimes guys get a taste of "cocky-funny" and they get a huge boner that lasts way too long. Once the girl smiles and laughs, boom she's into you. You came up and did something that no one else did. Now turn that shit off and show her you're a real person. She won't fuck you unless she trusts you, she won't trust you unless she realizes you're a real person, not some club freak. Also this comes across as VERY non-confident. A lot of guys over-banter out of fear of getting sexual. It is easier to lose attraction than risk getting blown out. Attraction should last 2-3 minutes if done right. I'm talking about going in like a fucking bomb going off, blowing it up, then turning that shit off. Use your judgment.

4.) Thinking too much/trying to make game logical rather than emotional

-Cars are fueled by gas. Girls run on emotions. It's just the way the world works. When guys CONSTANTLY say, "I run out of things to say", it's most likely because you are in a bored logical state. You ever get pumped up about something and you can't shut the fuck up? That's what being in state is. Talk about dolphins, talk about traveling, sex, or how cheeto's are the shit. It doesn't matter, just get pumped up over that shit and the girl will follow your lead. Understand, she's not feeding off your logic, she's feeding off your energy, so bring that fucking heat.

5.) Being a value taker instead of a value giver

-A lot of guys STILL go in with the mindset of, "I'm going to trick this girl/make her like me" with my game. Nah, bullshit. We are all on the same level. Women aren't better than us and we aren't better than them. They need us as much as we think we need them. They need a cool guy much more than they need a rich good-looking guy.

Every interaction you have with ANYONE in life, you should always be the one bringing the value to the conversation. Regardless of who you're talking to, they should leave feeling better when you part ways. Simple mindset switch. Go in and make that person feel better than they do. That's attraction. We want to be around people who bring us value and bring us up.

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I have only one little thingy to add to the 4th point.
Whenever guys run out of things to talk about is because primarily they aren’t really talking about stuff that they are interested in. I am not saying that you necessarily need to have a serious discussion about the meaning of life, universe and so on. Just simply bring up a topic that you are passionate about.
When doing things that you like, you are taking a positive turn and that is felt by the people around you. It is the same with conversations. Your good mood grows when talking about something you fancy and that affects your conversational partner and his/her mood too.
Keeping a journal might be a good idea. Analyzing your game isn’t a bad thing, but analyzing your game while you are gaming is, too much thinking might be confusing and it takes away all the pleasure of the present moment.
Get out of your head for a little bit and…
Enjoy what you do and smile

Cheers
Jez

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I like this post, and I completely agree with you jez if you just talk about stuff you think shell be interested in you'll come off as dull, but when your pasionate about something she will become interested in you

Rex I have a question about your journal, what else should I write other than our conversation. I was thinking about when I escalate and how, I'm trying to think of other things I could add while writing any suggestions.

Why can't "getting better with women"? Be a goal? There is nothing that says it can't be a overall general goal. Yes its not a goal that is physical or what have you, but it is a goal never the less.
Journals can help you, but they are not needed. I been able to improve my game over the years without them.
And yet we are not on the same level. If we where then any average joe can get a super model. And depending on the girl, she may go for the good looking rich guy over the cool one. Because the rich guy has the ability to provide way more than the cool guy does.
One should never keep on taking while not giving back. As sooner or later no one is going to give you anything as you don't give anything back.

Hey Jethro good question. It's your journal bud, write down anything you want. The whole point of a journal is so you can actually go home and learn, rather than just learning in the field. It's the same thing as studying for a test. You wouldn't just go in and wing it, and that's what a lot of guys do.

A journal is essential for speeding up the process. I also write down things that made me happy, got me in state, so I can never go back and say, "Oh I don't know how to do this", when in fact I've done it already.

As far as escalating go out and try anything and everything and write down what does and doesn't work. Jez and Jethro, great posts. Keep up that positive mindset!

Rex

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Point 4 is probably the best thing i have ever read..

But point 4 requires a level of confidence, but as you said in point 3, you can't be too cocky.

complexity is fun.

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i dont think a journal is really necessary, maybe for people who have bad memories or cant analyze things in their head.

good post man, i never thought of writing a journal. I spose it can be a good measurement of how i am comming along. gonna start one up this week!

excellent post man I like the idea about the journals, I'm gonna give that a shot. It seems like having something like that to study off of would really help. The idea about using it to remember how to get in state is brilliant.

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I forget to update my journal sometimes, or look back on it. Haha. I'll read through it soon and see what I picked up on before that I didn't remember.

I think it can be handy for making sure you get down what you need and to read back to know what needs to be sorted.

this post makes me jizz ... good stuff in here.

i agree with all points
this is sooooo true .... when a girl is into you you can get away with anything.
you have to show your a sexual person ...
not getting sexual is getting stuck in the friendship zone - but still you have to talk in a frame and do it subtle.

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#3 seems like something I get stuck at often. Spending too much time doing a certain thing and not advancing. Also, the journal idea is something I should definitely do.

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Love this post. Thanks.

Yeah i have found that a sexual frame can be measured by how much of a boner your getting due to the feeling of the interaction.

lol it may sound stupid but guys trust me you can feel this if you are amping up the sexual energy and she is reciprocating with IOI's a sexual tone of voice open body language etc Your dick will be a good gauge on the sexual energy.

MAKESURE that you are outside of your head! You want to be aware because most of this will be through sub-communication and you will be thinking we aren't talking about sex wtf why am i getting a boner all a sudden? (also talking about the weather whilst starting at her tits is not the sort of boner i mean)

Its hard to explain but when you feel you are on the same wavelength as her and you have a raging boner purely based on the way she is interacting with you then i say fucking go for it!

So guys your dick can measure sexual activity....... so simple yet has been ignored for so long due to the whole IOI thing which can sometimes be hard to spot from girls who aren't used to dating guys alot.

I wish someone told me to listen to my dick ages ago, its his life to get laid after all =]

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It takes a lot of balls to dump your old life and move forward ....... it also involves a period of loneliness which i have am figuring out sucks

Also as far as these "ioi" things go,

Always assume attraction. Don't wait for a green light to go ahead. There will be times when you are unsure as to advance, go for it. Holding back never pays off.

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