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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:22 pm 
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Use it or you lose it, this was something Chief had put as a reply in one of my topics a while ago about how i was feeling that my game was going down and my confidence. Well i didnt know to believe it or not and i hadnt

gamed a girl in like 2 months so yesterday I tryed gaming this girl but i made some mistakes and i just felt like i didnt know what to do, I had her turned on and everything but i made mistakes and didnt kiss close or

nothing i probably negged too much and didnt reward her for when she did something good. I use to be so good at gaming women then i stopped for a couple of weeks and i forgot everything now i have to find a way to

make it to the top again but i know its going to be faster now cus i do have some experience. Well anyway Im just warning you guys what Chief said is true If you guys stop gaming women then your inner game will

crash and youll have to rebuild it again, its almost like once your in this pickup artist business theres no going back you have to stick with it. Hope this helps.


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Good post, weeks off which turn into two weeks off cripple game. I took a couple of weeks off (had lots of work) and when I got back into it had got AA back.

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good post. afc reversal applies to everyone.
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I make a POINT of taking AT LEAST 2 weeks off every couple months. I have taken nearly 3 months off at one point. This did nothing but make me stronger, more grounded and congruent in my beliefs and actions. Time away from the community gives me a breather to evaluate my intentions and make sure that I'm holding true to my values. I honestly recommend that everyone take AT LEAST 2 weeks off every few months.

If your game falls apart over the space of 2 weeks, or even 2 months, then you obviously DON'T HAVE game! It is all just a facade and a routine that you have conditioned yourself to do because you do it so frequently. I personally don't have this issue because I don't "run game", I'm just me and I'm attractive because I know who I am and how to be an attractive person at my core. You should strive for that as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:33 am 
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Use it or you lose it, this was something Chief had put as a reply in one of my topics a while ago about how i was feeling that my game was going down and my confidence. Well i didnt know to believe it or not and i hadnt

gamed a girl in like 2 months so yesterday I tryed gaming this girl but i made some mistakes and i just felt like i didnt know what to do, I had her turned on and everything but i made mistakes and didnt kiss close or

nothing i probably negged too much and didnt reward her for when she did something good. I use to be so good at gaming women then i stopped for a couple of weeks and i forgot everything now i have to find a way to

make it to the top again but i know its going to be faster now cus i do have some experience. Well anyway Im just warning you guys what Chief said is true If you guys stop gaming women then your inner game will

crash and youll have to rebuild it again, its almost like once your in this pickup artist business theres no going back you have to stick with it. Hope this helps.
WTF? K, I'll back Rye on this...I took a year off completley taking myself out of this stuff. If anything it put everything in perspective, cause if you don't you lose yourselfand get tunnel vision. The benefits I gained off this were, it opened MANY new doors for personal growth, expanding my mind, had ALOT more fun, and everything was just..."normal".

I wasn't trying to be anything, I just was. This process of taking time off is almost a filtering of self. The good stuff gets more concrete and all the crap, well leaves.

On the actaul, taking time off...agree with Rye fully, but I'll push it...take a little time everyday to just be with yourself. Be it mediating, or just listening to music, just be with yourself for x amount of time. Commit to it, it will ground you and make everything more enjoyable. :)


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Rye Lee, Zac Lui, there are different reasons as to why people would drop out of gaming for a while.

One reason involves something like this... "This is just too hard. I am struggling too much with the material. Approaching and building attraction is too scary and difficult. I don't think I'll ever get a grasp on pickup. I give up...well, at least for now."

If that's the case, and you take a break, you're going to regress back and have to work even harder than before to get your Inner and Outer Game back up.

If, however, you are taking a break after you already created a truly solid foundation of Inner Game and built a healthy "3rd generation PUA" lifestyle, taking a hiatus does WONDERS.

Remember the newbie, fellas. Not everyone is at your level.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:12 am 
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Rye Lee, Zac Lui, there are different reasons as to why people would drop out of gaming for a while.

One reason involves something like this... "This is just too hard. I am struggling too much with the material. Approaching and building attraction is too scary and difficult. I don't think I'll ever get a grasp on pickup. I give up...well, at least for now."

If that's the case, and you take a break, you're going to regress back and have to work even harder than before to get your Inner and Outer Game back up.

If, however, you are taking a break after you already created a truly solid foundation of Inner Game and built a healthy "3rd generation PUA" lifestyle, taking a hiatus does WONDERS.

Remember the newbie, fellas. Not everyone is at your level.
If a person is willing to completely abandon knowledge they have gained while working on this stuff, then I don't believe they are ready to be learning this stuff period. This isn't about picking up a few tricks and methods to attract women, this is about becoming a better man; the best version of yourself that you can be.

I understand if a person finds the growth difficult and gets frustrated and needs a break. Like I said, I take a break from time to time in order to center myself because it CAN be overwhelming for me too. The thing is that I don't abandon what I've learned, I keep it with me and just let myself stay at the level I'm at and take it in and get used to being at that level until I'm ready to move forward again.

If a person is willing to abandon the growth they've achieved, then I don't think they are ready for this stuff. Period. It takes courage to grow and improve yourself. Just cause you need a break doesn't mean you have to turn tail and run. Have courage and hold fast.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:42 am 
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Conversely, "Overuse it and F everything up."

. . .I think I need to take a break as well . . . I've been in this dumb ass overload mode and it's been messing my game up. Instead of being attracted to "women", I've realized that I've been even more attracted to the game itself.

Here are a few stupid stupid mistakes I've made lately:

Exhibit A:

Go to the grand opening of a new bar. I open the first hb I see. Build rapport, my wing comes over so I leave the 2 alone and open some more. Obviously, she's watching me bounce from set to set giving/getting kisses on the cheek, numbers, etc . . Now I go back to the initial hb and she gives me shit test after shit test, "You're a player, blah, blah, blah . . ." I can take this. But then she goes, those 3 girls are staring at you. (They were). You should go "talk to them". So I ask, "You want me to go talk to them?" "She says, "Yes."

So I go . . . open the 3 set. The moment one girl laughs and leans and "hugs" into me, I peak out from the corner of my eye, the initial hb stands right up and gets the hell outta the bar in less than 5 seconds. My wing was like, "Dude? What the hell is wrong with you? Why the hell do you want 10 numbers when this girl was ready to fuck you tonight? You're crazy."

Very, very bad . . .

Exhibit B:

Go to a club with full intentions of f closing hb(a). Her friend, hb(b) is coming along. I tell my wing my intentions. He's like, "Cool, I'll go with b". Now instead of working hb(a) 100%, I start bouncing! This is some crazy ass backwards habitual shit! The funny thing is, this hb(c) comes along . . . just met (she's a friend of a friend) and we start grinding on the floor. She's reaching down and grabbing my cock, and our lips are inches away just escalating this shit, etc . . . So this is F'ing my game up. Instead of going 100% at 1 target, I somehow rationalize to myself that this one is in the pocket. Then I start hitting hb(b)! No joke. I don't know why.

Well every time I escalated their shit and I bounced, they got SWARMED by everybody. I mean swarmed. Guys also have this Slut Radar. They see chicks that grind, kiss, hug, etc . . . and then they see the guy walk off to hit another chick, and guys think, "Easy Target". And the girls, having been left behind were very warm to the idea of getting all this attention. I went home ALONE . . .

Very, very bad . . .


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:55 am 
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Ok Kasabi...I like you man...I really do.......but CUT the FUCKING terminology!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's one of the big reasons you need to take a break. You are far too involved in them mentality and as my buddy Zac just said, "You cannot see the trees in the forest". You're just looking at the game and not realising the whole purpose of the game is about connecting with people.

Take a break man, reflect and check your values and intentions for learning this stuff, then come on back with a fresh mind after purging all the "game" mentality. Go play some video games, watch tv, enjoy nature, hang with buddies, do drunk stupid shit, get baked, whatever the fuck you did before getting into this stuff and get back to your roots.

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Furthering concept....this is suppose to enrich your life, not enslave you. It should be a part of you & not the whole of you.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:49 pm 
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You know what you guys, you guys are right I did sort of lose my morals as to why im in this pickup artist life style, ever since i found out about the game my whole life had changed, I became more outgoing, more fun, and way more confident ( I know this cus people have told me.) I guess i need more practice and not focus on getting laid but rather having fun and enjoying life. I love women theres something about them that just makes my day, Like this one girl who if i hadnt found out about this stuff i probably wouldnt have ever met her and found out that she was actually pretty cool and she would ALWAYS make my day, I need to start having fun again and not worry if i get laid or not and just focus on having fun and meeting new girls and people.


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