I'm not a great dancer. But I have noticed women respond in a good way when I dance really close and with a lot of "friction". I dont wanna get all graphical, probably most of you guys will get my point.

Maybe its cause I'm a good looking guy. I never do it with girls I have to see on a regular basis (friends or classmates), or with girls above HB8 status. Why does it work? I can calibrate it well, so I know when to dance without the "heat on". Maybe I'm just being the grabby guy, and all the girls are just being nice.

Any thougts on that?

As long as they initiate it is fine, obviously you can kinda hint at it. Also if they didn't like it surely they could walk off.

Women relate dancing to sex. Its the way they work.
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you never do it with girls above HB8?
you say you're a good looking guy?
maybe they consider themselves as the ones who are getting lucky?
i mean, if they're not used to getting the attention of a good looking guy then dancing with one would be quite flattering, i'd imagine.

either way, girls associate dancing with sex. you dont have to be a good dancer, especially not in clubs, but you do need a decent sense of rhythm. without that you'll be the weird off-beat guy.

grinding with friends is generally a bad idea unless you feel like you can game them... same with class mates - they're more reluctant to open up and let you in because they know they have to see you and that things might get awkward if you end up hooking up.

at the end of it all, if a girl didnt want you to dance with her or touch her, she'd let you know... either by walking away or kicking you in your balls (depending on how badly you annoyed her)
there is no such thing as a girl just being nice to you on a dance floor, especially not when she has her friends around.

In my experience, girls on the dance floor are really flaky and really promiscuous. If you are looking to bring a girl home for the night, you could try your luck there, but it is really hit or miss.

I am a pretty good looking guy and I am quite confident, so on the dance floor I see loads of IOI's directed at me and it seems like I am doing really well. It only seems this way because the girls have a really high buying temperature and are quite easy at the moment.

If you want to find a girlfriend or seduce a girl, the dance floor is not really the place to go. Mystery and Style advise heavily to stay away from the dance floor totally. The guys that succeed with the dancing often get a cheap make-out or grind, and then the girl ditches him for her friends ignores him for the rest of the night. If you can find a girl that is really down, and if you have good style, confidence, value... it is possible to take a girl to take home without having to use game much. The hook-up will feel cheep though, and through experience it is definitely not as satisfying as a well played pickup.

Ok some girls are really promiscuous on the dance floor. But a lot of them do it just to blend in. and are not really promiscuous. ''the more guys on them the better'' is what they think. When they are dancing its just an illusion of them being flirty. sure you might k close - but that doesnt mean much to them. in their eyes its worth it for a little fun. youll rarely ever get much further without pua skills.
get dancin - confidently - and display your sexuality. grab her hand and pull her towards the bar to buy you a drink or w/e. this is very chancy however, her friends could pull her back. or even her bf. lol.
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I act a little bit more conservative when gaming HB9s and over. I get nervous....

But I can game 9s and tens.

You are right...maybe she is the one that feels lucky....that was my point.

Since I have danced with a lot of HBs, I think I can calibrate it based on the level of comfort between us.

V1V mentoned something, maybe hot girls just want tons of guys all over them, and I'm just being another one. Now I'm goint to learn dance floor game...

Everything you just said I co-sign to the max, especially the highlighted bits.

Just for the record: I dance cause its fun, I dont do it to get laid.

you sound like my wing lmao
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