Hi guys help me out if you could

Of all the PUA sticking points, I have trouble conveying one side of my personality to women- What music do I like?
If the truth be told I do not have a particular taste in music-nor do I really pay attention to music in general.

To me it is just pointless background noise. I personally enjoy being in clubs and let girls dance (I think the only time a guy can dance is if he is Gay or Black-not being racist ).

I did Media Studies in college when I was 17 years old-so I became very dis-illusioned with the music business, and I loathed women's fickle tastes in music. If indie's in they like indie, if Funky House is in they like Funky House, if Ibiza in they like Ibiza, if Coldplays in they like Coldplay etc.
Then the following year you can get the same CDs for 50p each as no-one is into them anymore.

A friend of mine who's into indie-culture, says there is some great music out there- you've just got to look for it.
He laothes people who say they like RnB, he says "People only like RnB becuase they cannot be bothered to look for great music. It is the McDonalds mentality".

So guys what music do you like- and do you do so to fit in or do you have a genuine passion for the music you like?

If you don't have a passion for any kind of music, then I'd suggest trying to find some that you do like. It's not about what's cool, it's not about what other people like, find stuff that you enjoy and that moves you. If you can't find anything that you are passionate about, then that's not a part of your personality you want to focus on and convey, just say that you're tone deaf, or you have trouble finding music that really moves you. If you tell them what you just told us though, you're gonna sound like a downer, cause your entire mentality about music is somewhat depressing (no offense, but anyone that is passionate about music is gonna feel that way, because I definitely felt sad for you, as I am incredibly passionate about music). Again, it's not about image and the fads, it's about what you like, so stop focusing on that crap and just focus on how it makes you feel.

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woooaahh thats a good question, heaps of shiz man, I'm a singer/guitarist in a band SPAM and we play like alternative punk rock. So what falls under there are bands like Angels and Airwaves, Jimmy Eat World, Box car racer, Blink 182 etc not sure if thats sorta music is your type of thing but being in a band and listening to that sorta music has has a DHV for my sarging and gives somethings to talk about and relate too for the chicks. Hope I helped

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Thanks for the quick replies guys- I know where you're both coming from.

I think the reason a particular type of music hasn't "stuck" with me is due to my Media Studies Course as previously mentioned.

We were always taught to "look at the man behind the curtain" and see how he influences the band/DJ/act and its audience. People do not realise that from composing a song, recording it,, marketing it is all carefully thought out to maximise Persuasion and (dare I say it) manipulation.
Like with music videos, they're just glorified adverts. I think a lot of music these days has no soul and is stimulation central.

When asked the question by the girl i just say "Oh I like all sorts of music, you should see my IPOD"


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You are right about this but you can't possibly mean it when you say that you don't like any kind of music?
Try listening to some older music, like Bruce Springsteen, The Cure, Bob Dylan, CCR, INXS, TFF etc etc.
They have some great music.

You are very correct about in what you learned in your Media Studies class, however you can never fully apperciate music if you think so analytically.

I used to read to far into music to and never really liked it. Then in high school that all changed with everyone listening to music. I would hear a song and think its cool and it went from there.

I advise like the others to listen to all different kinds of music. However, keep your mindset in the moment. Relate the music to how it makes you feel. Thats how you know if you like a song or not. Listen to every new thing with an open mind, and sooner or later you stumble onto something you like.

God, this is gonna get into a music debate real quick, so let's try to steer it away from that, as this isn't exactly that type of forum and everyone has their own tastes, so this could literally go on forever.

As far as music not having soul though and being too commercialized (that's basically what you're saying from the sound of it), you will find that a lot of people are into that music, but you can really impress anyone with legitimate musical interest if you step outside the mainstream a bit. You don't even have to go THAT far out, stuff that people still may have heard of, but gets good reactions from my experience: Spoon, OK Go, Arcade Fire, Ben Harper, Chevelle, Cold War Kids, The Hold Steady (one of my personal favs), Ludo (everyone I've introduced to this band has been deeply moved and chicks dig it), Modest Mouse, Pixies, Portishead, Sneaker Pimps, This Will Destroy You (great if you're into Post-Rock) and Wolfmother to name a few. If I drop several of those names, then I always end up getting some perked ears and they're all un-mainstream enough that they aren't souless.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

I think it is more of a "vibing question". During raport with a female, she does pop the question every now and then, what music do you like?

My previous hesitations have almost killed the mood with any given female.

I'd say as well, that for guys in the UK- stating you like a certain type of music can break rapport with any given female. For example I know girls who are turned off by Hip Hop or Heavy Metal- due to the sub-culture elements, or stating that guys into this sort of music lack self esteem

That's just people, not the UK. If a girl tells me she loves hip-hop, I'm instantly turned off, same as if she says she's big into country. These are merely social dynamics things, not a matter of pickup per-say, although of course they factor into the equation.

Again, I think the reason it kills the mood, is your outlook on the whole thing. You're incredibly jaded sounding and that's a turn-off. You need to be more positive about the whole issue and stop thinking about all that stuff that you've been stating as your reasons NOT to like music, but instead just think about reasons why you DO like music. Positives = good, negatives = BAD. This is true of any subject, not just music; negative energy repels people and as soon as you hear the music question, I bet you emit negative vibes like a vapor.

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~ Rye

Aye, Rye is very much correct. You mood at the point of the question is paramount. You are DLVing by being negative. Hell, as long as you are positive and confident about it you could say "You know, I've never been into music, nothing special has ever caught my eye". Then you could talk about your media studies.

My favorite genre is Surf music...not The Beach Boys - That's California music (though I have met them and think they are great guys with fun music that lowers women's inhibitions)...but, I like Delta Blues, and just about any other genre as long as it is the best of the genre.

Dancing has nothing to do with being gay or black. I used to think as you did, until I took dance lessons. Guess what is at a dance class...lots of women! ANd, if they have boyfriends, they did not bring them along because their boyfriend is an AMOG who thinks like you do and I did. SHe is so easy to pick up by dancing with them offering to talk more about dancing at a lunch.

One of my openers at clubs is to explain I am in a contest where I need to teach someone who has never done a certain dance, and need to practice, and ask the target to be my practice partner.

Exactly, even though it communicates the same idea, that is a much more positive sounding statement. I personally HATE hip-hop and country, but instead of pissing on people that do like it, even though I may not want to have a relationship with her (yeah, music plays that big a part to me), I'd simply say, "I'm not a fan of most country music, although I do like the Kings of Leon, who are kind a country-rock and I have heard a few catchy hip-hop songs, although it's not something I generally spend much time listening to, as I'm more into alternative genres." See how if you read between the lines you can tell I don't like either genre, but it still shows that I'm open and have a positive vibe. As mommy always said, "It's not WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it."

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Like the OP I to have a sense of loathing of peoples' taste in music. I love all kinds of rock so that's not so much and issue. It's hip-hop I'm disillusioned with. When I listen to hip-hop it's usually something like Brother Ali, Lyrics Born, Blackalicious, Jedi Mind Tricks, and Mac Lethal. I just don't really care for something with a catchy hook I can shake my ass to. That's just my personal taste which makes it hard to realte to people when they start talking about Soulja Boy. I don't listen to the radio. I've honestly never heard an entire song he has done.

This question begs being asked, no particular taste in music affects your game how?

If anything it could help, you can chill to anything, what's more girls may try and qualify by getting you interested in their music.

That's how I find things go,

Don't know what to wear.... call the girls.
Relationship situation..... .....call the girls.
Need help choosing a film... ....call the girls.

Women are people, they can help and hinder you, get them hooked on you and they will naturally enjoy spending time with you and helping you. Girls generally feel happy to be in the presence of an alpha guy. Often they are happy to help you.

Music tastes are irrelevant, if someone asks you say "I have no particular favourite, care to enlighten me?".

Doesnt it also depend on what you want music for?

Getting them first back to your place = one type of music.
(for me, this is smooth jazz, maybe some Italian stuff like Eros Ramazzotti)
Getting them to the bed = another type.
(for me this is after some chat and wine and now we're moving to close, so its something like smooth trance/chilled Ibiza, I like 'Deepest Blue or Another Chance by Roger Sanchez type stuff)
Getting them f-closed = another type.
(this is where you want the music really seductive, top all time song for this has been 'Fade', very very cool and smooth deep trance, nothing cheesy here just all good)

But tastes vary, the key is to think about it. Next time a girl asks what music are you into ask them what for? Hell sometimes it could be country and western if you're in a hoe down in the barn.