I have never sarged before in such a tough area. I consider NY and LA as the most difficult area's in the USA for sarging.

Lets get a thread here going about how others feel on this and what works/doesnt.

~kino

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"Life is short, when its done u cant start over"

I never done any sarging in LA as I only sarge in Orange County. But I have to say sarging in the OC is not exactly easy, especially in the beach cities where the whole OC life style is a lot more prevalent. The number of girls that are materialistic is unreal let alone some of the entitlement attitudes they have.

It seems girls in these area's have a much higher value, so possibly a good method in these area's would be DLVing them big time as much as possible.....humm.

I see girls in colorado that are 9's and work at walmart. Any girl like that in NY would be married and have a guy buying her an Escalade and such. Its really the guys when u think about it, they fight so hard to win girls in places like NY it raises the girls value.

~kino

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"Life is short, when its done u cant start over"

I find it hard to believe that many girls have that much higher value. I actually think a lot of girls put up a front as if they are much higher value so that they can attract the wealthier guys.

When I run into girls that think that they are higher value when they are not, I usually do a mix of DLV and making them qualifying their higher value. I have to say most fail at it and I find out that they do retail or something at some store that is not even a high fashion store.

In my experience in the big cities that I've lived in it really isnt an issue of value.

Its an issue of personal space. In the large city, people are approached often (for flyers, for change, from club promoters etc.). These people all want something from them.

Therefore they are programmed: Approach=Solicitation.

This is an obstacle that can be overcome if you make sure you smile when approaching and ground the opener early.

Otherwise, prepare to be ignored.

yeah sarging in NY is really tuff. it's funny, i grew up here, and lived here pretty much my whole life, but everyone i know has the best game when they leave NY.

i went to college here in NY and a lot of people from out of state went there as well. i actually developed something called the 2 month theory. i noticed taht any nice small town girl from out of state will be sweet and forgiving for about 2 months, and very easy to game. eventually after 2 months she will start to develop the NY mentality, and she will suddenly have a bitch shield and start acting like she is higher value.

sexelent, you are absolutly correct! 2 month theory with the girls gettting like the other NY girls, abolutly true.

jurupa: When i said higher value i didnt mean they were actually higher value, i meant they get the attitude they are high-value, sought after girls after the 1 millionth guy in NY hits on them. In a way I guess you can say that when they get that mentality their value does raise a bit since now they are "un-obtainable" to an extent.

Lets keep this thread going, I would like to share some of this info with some of my friend-chicks that are into social dynamics.

Zip babe, where r ya?

~kino

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"Life is short, when its done u cant start over"

Darling, darling! I'm here. Let's hit the town!

NY is definitely, I'd say... THE hardest place to sarge in the US. At least girls in LA are sortof mellow, at times. NY girls are bad ass.

My bootcamp in NY was an excellent challenge and setting for the guys because it was SO difficult. When they went home, it was a fucking breeze.

Kino, let's get together soon. I forgot what you look like.

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Ah okay.
Oh goody another chick convo to jump into.



I found that when I run into this attitude and I counter with "you are who?" attitude has sometimes got the girl to acknowledge me. It also helps to display the same higher value attitude as well at least in the OC.

Zip: U r busy and im busy lately....im doing MAJOR construction at my office so weekdays are out, but maybe this weekend?

~kino

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"Life is short, when its done u cant start over"

Babe, I'm going to be in Canada this weekend, but the next weekend I'm way open

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The thing I found the most difficult in NY, was getting kino going with the really attractive girls, as they all seemed to have massive personal space bubbles. I think they percieve their value as being a lot higher, because of how others are treating them (which is pretty legitimate, as we are mostly given our level value by those around us) and with such a high population density, I figure personal space becomes a precious thing.

I'd love to get back there and spend more time figuring some things out. Perhaps being in Toronto will make it easier to have that happen, then I can hook up with Kino and Zip again, who definitely know the lay of the land a lot better. If you're in the area, I definitely suggest picking up some pointers from them.

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~ Rye

Couldnt have said it better Rye. The population density means they are aproached so offten.

As I have said before. In somewhere like Nebraska you could have a HB9 working at walmart, if that girl came to NY she would be married and have a mercedes and a 5000 sq ft house and never have to work again.

NY is a GREAT place for a woman. Heck if i was a chick I would LOVE NY. But for guys its tough!

~kino

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5 for 5 MPUA

"Life is short, when its done u cant start over"

The same goes for most of Southern California as well.