My "Fantasy to Realist" model.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:49 am 
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Before you read, keep in mind that this was a rant I had, and I kept it in rant form because it'd lose it's impact any other way.

Also, not saying this is all 100% true for everyone, but I'll bet you anything you can categorize yourself. This more applies to high school kids, because most people become Realists by the time they graduate. If I had to apply this to an age range, I'd say it applies from age 14-23. People evolve a lot over that time frame, and this is as accurate a summary as I can provide from my experience.


Why is everyone so obsessed with love?

Seriously, most people I know [girls more than boys] have some psychotic image that they're gonna meet their true love in their teens. They get so wrapped up in it that they try for it in every relationship. They expect the relationship is gonna last forever, and when the shit ends two weeks later, they're sad as if it was a REAL shock to them. Then they do the whole thing over again?!?

Are people stupid? Don't answer that, it's an obvious answer.

Girls ask me all the time why I don't bother with dating. I don't try to answer because they're the same girls that do that stupid shit, and they'll never get it.

A girl would have to be realistic to stand a chance with me, and that doesn't seem like it'll happen for a long time.

People fit into three groups:
-Fantasy people, which are the ones I'm talking about in this bulletin.
-Realists, which realize that relationships won't always last forever. Some like to try anyways in hopes of bettering the quality of their life for now. Some avoid relationships altogether.
-Party people, which are fantasy people in transition. They're hopeless, and tend to flake on the Realists. They realize shit doesn't last forever, and instead of trying to just be happy now, all they care about is getting fucked up and forgetting about all their failed relationships with Realists, and they still don't understand why it didn't last forever.

Everyone is a fantasy person before their first real relationship. Some people get stuck there and A] get obsessed over the ex, or B] find someone new and expect this one to last forever. Some get stuck for several relationships.

Then people start transitioning into Realists. Some avoid the party phase and directly turn into a Realist, most stop in the party phase for a while. While in the party phase, sex and/or drugs are life's main objective. Both are to mask the emptiness created from being single, and the sadness caused by "the one who got away".

At their own pace, people mature and start becoming less of a partier and more of a Realist. Once you're a Realist, there's no turning back. You're hopeful of your relationships, but you never expect them to last forever. You're sad in between, but you don't need anything to cope anymore [not saying you won't do whatever for fun]. And more than anything, you just feel sorry that you can't make fantasy or party people understand.


So that is my Fantasy to Realist model, let me know what you think.


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lonliness is the human condition. that is why we desire strong pair-bonding. in everyone of us there is a void and we all seek to fill it with something.

people claim that realists are the ones that can accept the fact that true-love does not exist. i disagree. you create your own reality. and i can peel the layers off a girl and change hers as well.

my value is love does exist. by presenting this value to a girl, whether she agrees or disagrees ( i personally don't give a fuck), i will present my values with such a calm force that she will be absorbed into my reality of believing in love as well.

in any case, whatever you want to classify yourself as, you shouldnt deny a girl for potential courtship just because she wants true-love.
with a strong frame and direction in conversation and feelings, you can elicit your values to sound better than hers. she will change her values for you.she wants whats best. girls need to be guided. just remember that underneath it all, we have emotions that need to be fullfilled. even you.

everything is up in the air. nothing should be categorized.

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That's funny. Unfortunately, I've lost faith in "love" or "pair bonding". After learning a lot about how things work, I just lost it. Simply put, its all kinda just random oportunity that we are either prepared for or not.

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yeah.... you shouldn't classify women into either fantasizers or realists.
there's much more to a woman and what she wants and just because you had a shitty relationship that ended up breaking your heart doesn't give you the right to judge women that way ej.

what a woman is looking for doesn't make her of any less value.
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A girl would have to be realistic to stand a chance with me, and that doesn't seem like it'll happen for a long time.
it sounds to me like you don't have a chance with a woman that wants something real and long term. picking up and a relationship are completely two different subjects and a relationship is much more work and very difficult.

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It's not necessarily wrong to categorize women into two different camps. There are those that have, excuse the term, seen the matrix. They're the realists that know that there is no such thing as their one perfect guy and that at any time there are millions of guys that could meet their standards sufficiently. Then there are the non-realists who still maintain some level of wonderment and excitement in a relationship and see it as more than a chemical interaction between two people.

Just by the fact that you're studying pickup you've become a realist. But I find that pairing two realists together makes for a very boring and technical relationship that fizzles quickly or becomes less about excitement and more about partnership (ie staying together because both parties benefit financially or something).

The best kind of relationship comes from pairing you (the realist) with a nonrealist girl. She gets to enjoy those happy feelings and associate those chemicals with "true love" and you get to enjoy the knowledge that as long as you can continue to elicit those feelings she'll stay with you.


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