/yes i am good at picking up women./yes i've been getting very good, very fast, very soon.

yes i can get a number, and a hug from a random girl. i can get a kiss from that same girl the next time i meet her. i can finger her the third time. i fuck close when she is ready. but what the fuck is the point of it all?

everything i say and do, it's bound to a strict guideline of rules. i don't know who the fuck i am anymore. and no, i don't use MM.

everything i do, i learned from books and dvds. everyday my life is revolved around getting better at pickup. i don't measure my success by finding the perfect girl for me, which is what i wanted. infact, i don't even know what i consider perfect anymore. i am not susceptable to a woman's charm.

i see a lot of you guys ask questions about what should i do when she does this or that. what can i do to make her fall in love with me or fuck her. everything comes with a price. you will be erasing everything you've learned your whole life and live your life by a code on what you can do and feel. that is if you want to get good at it.

sweet innergame is cool. some of you want it. some of you have it. fuck it.
the stronger innergame i have, the more heartless i feel. emotions? none.
can you or any superhotbitch out there hurt my feelings? no. i feel like a fucking rock with a cock. my reality is fucking mine. and it sucks. my greatest strength was being naive. i believed in true love, sex was something special, marriage was a possibility, women were cool. now i pick them apart like a puzzle.

maybe i'm just going through a self-dissapointment phase. maybe it's a sign i need to leave the game. or i have issues that i have to deal with.
am i crazy bc i need to get verification from women to continously feel good about myself?

a girl told me she loved me today. i met her 5 times, sarged her for the first time 2.5 weeks ago, and she is a stage5 clinger. that isn't the disturbing part. what she said afterward was 'i was perfect. everything i do is perfect. it's almost unreal'. what the fuck. i am not proud of this. this isn't a compliment. it is a statement of how fucking fake i am. i need to sleep.

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You're starting to FEEL that women aren't as special as you once thought they were. You're past the stage of understanding that fact, now you are feeling the disappointment of it. Or maybe you've put too much investment into women as part of being a PUA. Its a big part, but far from the most important. If this is really getting to you, your reality may not be as solid as you may think. (I'm not trying to be an ass here) Your frame may be strong in the company of others, but then again, a strong mental frame is sometimes a shield in itself. Your frame must be just as strong when there are no other people around as well, and not as a shield. Just take some time to think about what makes you you and what it is that makes you happy.

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What irritates me the most, that some of the people - if not a lot - just "do this" to get mindless fucks imo. I am very satisfied with my life right now. I read all this material, not only to get better with woman, but being a better person in general, having a deeper psychological sense and see things other men don't see. I wonder if some of you are like desperate to get laid. It's like some has this mindset; "I NEED to sarge and get laid to have a life I want the most, or never had."

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our greatest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure." - Marianne Williamson.

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you're bred of girls? find a 10/10 chick and settle down or just leave the game, i dont see this happening to me or why it happened to you, its weird but i really think you need a break or something to make you realise why you started the game in the first place...

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I've got to agree with Waffle here on all of the points. Just take some time to yourself and do something that makes you happy. Make your life enjoyable as hell and make it mean something to you. If it helps, picking out some new hobbies can help out too. But, it really just sounds like you need a break or need to slow down so you can take everything in easier. I'd go into a long story about going into things too fast or too deeply and how it can screw up a mindset but I'd feel another gray hair popping up. But, send me a PM dude if you need to calm yourself down some more.

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thanks guys. i've been chilling out and just plan on avoiding all female contact for a little bit.

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yh thats probably best, you'll soon realise that you were happiest with the challenge of game, if you fail to miss the PUA life then think about moving on.

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What? Cold turkey? No! Don't go from extreme to extreme!

Look, man. You've just been having some oneitis. You've been oneitising pickup. Learning pickup and becoming a pickup artist is a lot more about building a better and more balanced life than just getting good with women. Have you been paying attention to your other hobbies? Your health? Your wealth? OTHER kinds of relationships?

If you make a habit of just obsessing over one thing and just stopping it altogether for a while to "chill out," you're just going to be doing the same thing for another thing. It's like oneitis after oneitis after oneitis, which I'm sure is a process you're familiar with (I certainly am).

Be real. Live in alignment with your values. Seek balance.

yeah.. thanks chief. that makes a lot of sense. i got sucked in and was so impressed by improvement with women that i ignored the rest of my life.
i'm in the shithole for finances (yes being a PUA can be fucking expensive), i sleep all day and i wake up at 9pm and stay out till noon, i barely eat, and i'm getting physically and mentally tired from almost the same shit. building rapport is draining. i need to reorganize my life.

OMG i even started to play WoW again. taha

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woahhhh man
yeah, just follow your common sense to reorganize your life to balance it out

one of my pledge brothers plays WoW. one time he said he was going to leave a party early to do some kind of dungeon raid, but i told the brothers so they made him drink more and come bar hopping with us afterward. yeah, fuck WoW lol.

Remember the three areas of life espoused by MM: health, wealth and relationships. Fulfillment can only come from becoming accomplished in all three. Right now I only have one missing puzzle piece, but if I felt the other two slipping I would address them first.

Understanding women is a lot like stumbling through a dark house. After a long time you might be able to stumble your way through and get a crude but operating knowledge of the house's layout while maintaining some level of unknown there. Pickup is the light switch. Once you turn it on you're giving up that sense of excitement that comes from your previous lack of knowledge.

The important thing to remember is that the thrill of being with a girl can only be maintained with AFC-like naivety. An AFC might get to enjoy that "magic" of feeling like he's with the girl he was meant for, but it will lead to him becoming supplicative and low value until he ultimately loses the thing that he desired so much.

In order to reap the long term benefits, you have to make short term sacrifices. You've got to embrace the cold, logical part of you that knows that when a girl chooses to be with you, it's only because you flipped those switches and elicited those chemicals in her brain better than some other guy.

edit: Oh, and stop playing WoW. If you're serious about becoming successful and getting your life in order, cancel your account right now. It's a mode of escapism used by quitters. In short doses it's fun but I can tell you right now that for most players it is a form of escapism.

i only played for an hour.. lol.
im back at sarging but i'm limiting my girls to 3 fuckbuddies at a time.

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Hey i must say that this was by far the most informative Thread i ahve read thus far! You guys all have very interesting things to say and I look forward to becoming and avid member of this community.

The thing here from what I can see is if you generally having no problem picking-up women so then you have achieved what a lot of guys cant or it takes them YEARS to achieve.

What you need to look at now is the BIGGER picture.

I'll use MM just for ease of explaining...

Pick-up if you like is A1 of a relationship or Life with another human being... theres so many other parts... pickup and finding a partner is just the beginning.

I'd say if you now have no problems picking up then your next task is to indentify what you look for in a woman and be picky because the chances are you'll pick-up whoever meets those requirements with ease anyway because your game is tight. We're not talking about looks but personality traits and HER S&R value.

Then the idea I would imagine is that when you find the one you want who you gel with and get on with moreso than just sex... you have your relationship together and experience what life is together as a couple.

Then you'll be on A2 - The relationship. I've never had more than a 6mth relationship and thats down to me getting bored too quickly but then under this mindset it would make me say that I didn't get on with the girl.

Eventually people do something that irritates you or something similar or maybe they have a fault you don't like from the start but some guys are so desperate to have a GF that they will look passed it, needless to say a few mths later thats when it breaks down.

This is only my interpretation of "the big picture" I'm not trying to talk to anyone like a kid. It sounds to me like you've conquered Pick-up and I am very much in awe of people like you, mystery and other successful PUAs who can genuinely pick-up any woman they want... But what is masterful is having something like a marriage where you BOTH remain HAPPY for years and years... how many people do you hear about getting divorced after 5 years, or being married 20 years but fed up and always having arguements.

The beauty in relationships is that of knowing your other-half and being so "right" for each other that what you find attractive is the same 20 years later that it is on day 1.

With 6.5 billion people on the planet its a tough task but then (without getting to philosophical here) I believe that when you conquer or fail this task, you are then ready to die and move on to the next life where another "lesson" will await you.

anyway just my interpretation...