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alright, so i am basically just gonna warn you now that this will be a long post, because i am trying to get the full story to you guys to figure out what to do, and besides that, i am pretty bored. also note that i will tell the story as it is, and won't sugar it up to much with my thoughts, so it would look like what it looks like to anyone else. so here it goes.

I am currently spending my summer in michigan, and so far, it has been going pretty well. i have met up with old friends, or friends that aren't really my group of friends, but my brothers, either way, we hang out.

so me, friend A and my brother have been hanging out, and it has been pretty drama free, but then last week monday, we had a special surprise, maybe it wasn't a surprise so to say, but this chick from italy flew in to help some family friends with babysitting, but they didn't want her to be bored, so she gave her some activitys. and so she was set up to be on a volleyball team with my brother. now this didn't cause me any fear, because my brother is almost the definition of an AFC, and no matter what i tell him, he will always believe that you don't need confidence in life. and my other friend we hang out with, he is a complete natural, but i still AMOG him pretty well, and he doesn't mind... even though he is about a foot taller, lol.

so anyways, this italian chick flew in, and i start doing what i normally do, neg and attract, i have no doubt in my mind that i have perfected the attraction stage, i just need to work on the other two, lol. (this is using mystery's philosiphy).

so the first day went through, and i had successfully AMOG'ed my brother and friend A. she was attracted, and i numberclosed.

this might be a good time to say that my brother is going to college next year, but i look older than him even though i am going to be a junior, and my friend A is in the same grade, but he looks older and i kind of screwed up 'best friend' status when i was younger.

anyways... over the last week, we have been going to the movies (note:movies are terrible places for dating, but i wanted to see hancock and wall-e) and i have surprisingly been keeping Friend A down, away from IC (italian Chick) and me and her have grown quite attached, i have been kino escalating, and i have been keeping my arms around her and whenever she gets cold, she tells me and gets near, so i warm her up. i was living the good life.

now this is where i started to get confused.

a couple days ago we were chilling on my boat, my dad was getting ready to leave, and out of no where, she kisses me, i thought to myself, "wow, i have gotten every single IOI possible, I would be stupid not to make my move" so i tell my dad i want to stay on the boat and rest and IC just happens to follow along.

i say that i am tired and that i am going to go to cabin to rest. she starts to follow. now this is what usually happens with american chicks after such IOI's. i go down to master bedroom she follows, and then i lay down, she follows after, i ask, "are you ticklelish?" and after a while of extreme kino rising(lol, that sounds fucking stupid, oh well, i am tired.) we passionatly make out.

so i go down to the master bedroom, and when i start to go in, she gives me the weirdest look, and says, "woahwoahwoah, in italy we don't do this until after marriage."

Plan B: i go "what? i am just getting my pillow," and she luckily follows along.

now i am terribly am taken back by this and just kind of lay down, i start to think of something that happened earliar, i say, " you know, you did a good job yesterday sailing," and i start the ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS routine.

first off go in for a high five and change your fingers almost to a peace sign, after this you say, "scissors beats paper," and then you have started the rock-paper-scissors routine. then after this, say, "we cool?" slide your hands and say, "pound it," but instead put your hand over hers and say, "paper beats rock, i win two out of three, i win yay!"

anyways, this relaxed her, she slept for a bit because the kids are terrible to her, and then we looked at pictures from our phones and camera's.

then my dad came back with some friends, and i was just left to wonder what happened. although later in the day she kept holding me, so i thought it was all good.

then she told me she didn't want hugs anymore, but kisses because it is what they do in europe. it kind of bothered me when my brother kissed her, but i thought she had to to be polite, oh well.

now my friend A was on vacation all this time at cedar point and we had been awaiting his arrival. we set up a 4th of july party on my boat, and we were going to invite IC and a HB8. along with Friend A and a friend of my brother.

so we were tanning at the marina and the IC came. we talked for a bit on our boat and relaxed. we ate a bar-b-que and came back. the IC had been there for a while and was tanning. we all started chilling with her and then she asked if anyone can give massages. i said yes, because i really can. then she said whoever massaged her would get a massage first.

this is where it went downhill.

my friend A, the natural, said he would do it. this really pissed me off, because i was kind of just telling her i was going to give her the massage. but i let him do it. so he did it, i was kind of scared cause his father is a chiropracter, but he didn't do that well. anyways he got the massage back and was speaking of how good it was. and it kind of made me jealous, but i decided not to worry because i would get my turn. then my brother took the next slot... it again angered me, but i wasn't afraid, it was pretty hilarious actually because he put his crotch on her as she laid on her front side, lol, he stradled her, but then he got his massage and then bragged about how good it was. then i was going to go, but then at first she said, "well you didn't want to do it earlier," and i just basically said that was bs, then she said, "fine."

now when i did my massage, she said i was a little weak at first, but then immediately i did well and i must have done something good because she was doing a slight moan, not in a sexy way, lol, but i was making her relaxed. then she gave me my massage, and she did good in some parts, but the i knew that i wasn't gonna be like the others and tell her how perfect it was, a PUA must stand out. now when i did this, my friend and brother amog'ed me and said, don't diss something that is free. i was appalled.

then she layed down on my friends shoulder, who was laying down, and i said, "your massage was very good, but you got to make it feel like i am on a pillow, like so." so i layed on her belly, and said, "ahh, this is perfect." i am a very humorous person, and make people laugh a lot, so whenever she laughed i would be like, "don't laugh so hard, your stomach is now tense," and of course she would laugh more. but she seemed more interested in friend A. my other friend came, and by that time, friend A was laying on her crotch, "fuck," i said to myself, "what am i doing wrong?"

the night proggressed and the IC would take a little time with me, but then her time with friend A started increasing. eventually, she was cuddling to him for warmth, feeling him, talking to him, and shutting me out. we started to watch the fireworks, but by that time she was holding both of us, i was getting tired of this game and knew something had to change quick.

now would be a good time to mention that HB8 is a friend of friend A that has been making moves on friend A, but he isn't interested, and now of course was hitting on the IC, she started to get depressed and went down to the cabin.

i decided to make a little jealousy plotline.

my friend B told the group of this and i was immediatly like, "really?" and i started to bolt off. then when i started to leave, the IC was like, "why you going," and i said, "i got to help my friend," she looked confused, but then very quickly Friend B started to get in her arms, i didn't really care though, because when i go to a jealousy plotline, i like to act like, well, your somewhat important, but not that important.

long story short, i got the girl up with my humor, and then within 5 minutes i had her happy and giggly, i made a lot of attention as i did this, and froze out the IC. so the final fireworks started to shoot out and the IC said, "quick hold onto me," ok, she didn't say it exactly like that, but she kind of bothered me because 3 other people were huddling around her and i didn't want her to feel like she is the surpreme godess.

so i said, "it alright, i am cool." she looked appalled.

so we went back, and then everyone was cold, but at that point i wanted to avoid all contact with people and shut out everyone, that's when she really started to care about me. she was trying to things to cheer me up as i had done them to HB8, but she didn't understand my mental state. she said, "you are not acting normal, is there something wrong?" and i told her i was just tired. she wouldn't take that as an answer. i then said, "i am just feeling neutral right now," she didn't really understand this because she is still getting used to the english dialouge.

she asked, "why wouldn't you hang with me at the front," and i said, "it was to crowded," but she started to mock me for when i said "i am cool," she took it in the way that i was saying 'i am to cool for you.' but either way, she was still trying to be goofy. so then i said, "i am going to the playset, i need some time alone." now at this point, i don't know why, but everyone was just following me during my 'alone time.'

we have this joke where i say, "it's cold huddle for warmth," and she said it this time, and she hugged me, and everyone joined, and now that i think about it, i feel bad, but i kind of shut her off a little, just to give her a taste of how i felt. now she was really close to me.

i got on the playset of the area, because it was quite, and then we start to leave to the car, Friend A and my brother were walking somewhere else, and my father who was going to drive us went ahead, but then IC stayed back, and we talked about hand warmers, which she had never heard about before, and i told her it was perfect for the moment. (if you couldn't tell already, it was cold) then we went into the car and i sat in the back, which is what i usually do to get kino with the girl, but when i saw the other two wanted to go back, i went up front and she asked why, and i just said, " im just gonna let people get their space." so i sat in the front, which in the end made me feel better, because my friend a was planning on sitting in the middle, which would have put him next to her, but because i wasn't crowding the back, it would have made it aqward for him to take up the spot.

his body language said he was pissed and so it gave me some warmth, i'm terrible aren't i? :D

anyways, she sad goodbye to everyone as she left, now we usually kiss for saying goodbye but i started to get up and i just waved.

i was super deppressed. i wanted to stop thinking about my terrible night where i had to spend hours watching my friend with the girl who was funny, intellegant, healthy, and pretty, and the exact opposite of an american woman.

as soon as i got home i chilled outside by myself, and when i got in i took some nightquil to fall asleep, but i stayed awake from thinking about the night. my dad heard i was troubled and asked why, now i won't tell exactly about this part, because it has a lot more to deal with then just the IC, but eventually what it went down to is my dad told me that apparently the whole time, the IC didn't know we were attracted to her, this made me really frustrated, and i wonder why about what happened? did everything mean nothing to her? was i LJBF'd from the beginning? if the game hurts this much, why do i play?

i wanted to quit the game

well i eventually fell asleep, and i felt terrible in the morning, and took more stuff to fall asleep, but i fell asleep for like 2 hours then woke up, my dad wanted me to go sailing.

i said yes, because i wanted to be happy, and the sun and water makes me very happy.

i went and we ate at wendy's, i then decided i wanted to go home, i turned on the radio, and just started listining. then perhaps the stupidist miracle in life happened. 'sweet home alabama,' turned on on the radio and i realized, 'the game is life, i have to play it, and i will play with the cards i am dealt.'

so that brings me to my conclusion, sort of, where i sit right now sort of wondering what happened, are italian chicks totally differant, what should i do, and did i just make the most thoughtful post ever on this forum? so anyways, do i have a chance with this italian chick or not?


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now at this point, i don't know why, but everyone was just following me during my 'alone time.'
This is the reason people should be allowed tazers.... Ok, not really...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:37 pm 
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well, i know that.

i guess i should rephrase it as, what should i do next?


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I think you're playing it right. When she's getting a lot of attention freeze her out, it makes you stand out and peaks her curiosity.

Also, she said that she doesn't do "that until marriage" -- respect it. Don't make any moves towards it... she may be tempted but she might consider it a turn off too (if that makes sense).


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Also, she said that she doesn't do "that until marriage" -- respect it. Don't make any moves towards it... she may be tempted but she might consider it a turn off too (if that makes sense).
I dont know...Couldnt that just be a shit test?

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Also, she said that she doesn't do "that until marriage" -- respect it. Don't make any moves towards it... she may be tempted but she might consider it a turn off too (if that makes sense).
I dont know...Couldnt that just be a shit test?
Possibly.

But, if she IS from Italy, then 90% of them claim to be Roman Catholics. It's very possible that she was raised this way, maybe not devout, but still the mindset. If she was raised with the mindset of no sex before marriage she might actually believe that it's something worth keeping. She may want sex, but on the other hand (and ironically) she may view it as a turnoff that a guy tries to pursue it.

I suggest continue using game, but build comfort if it is the case.

Just my 2 cents...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:41 am 
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well, i wasn't trying to have sex with her, just the making out. lol.



ahhh, how should i build comfort??? this is my weak point in my game and i left my books at my home, so i can't read while on vacation.


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TLDR

but really, its obvious she cares about you, every time you pushed her away she seemed to want to get closer, a strong IOI in my book, so go for it...and if it's not her its someone else

and wear a coat when your outside at night...you dont want to catch a cold, and the oneitis


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ha, yes i realize it's oneitis, a really bad case of it.

but it's just, how often do you see someone that came all the way from italy, for me not that often.

either way, i am going to get at least a good friendship with her, which i wouldn't mind, because she said that if me and my bro and friend ever wanted to go to italy, she will let her house be our place to stay.

so it's win-win


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One way I choose to build comfort is to repeat their name. I noticed it in high school when I would introduce myself and in that first meeting someone would repeat my name a lot while talking I loved it. So I started doing it with every new person I meet and I can tell with the looks on their face they like it. Just say her name every now and then in a conversation. Sometimes it feels unnatural to me but if you make it sound natural it's golden.

Another good thing is to always make sure the conversation revolves around her. Of course you can neg (if you're still in that part of the game) because those still revolve around her. And, when you're being charming make sure nothing reflects you.

Hope that made sense and hope it's ok advice.


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