So helping a few friends with the pua stuff, and I regret doing it now. All they do is mimic me, body language, voice tone and everything. They even stand the same way I stand.

When they first started I approached sets with them, started the convo, built interest, and attraction, I'd make my phone and say," excuse me for just a second I have to take this call, you know tom is studying film and video editting in school (we were talking about her interest or something and this sparked a great convo topic)

Tom blows it and ends up talking about himself the whole time and the girls walk away.

The girls I game all have friends, clearly I can't game all of them, so I invite them out to come out with my friends. I have the hottest girl out of the group most of the time so my buddies try to game her, and then i look like a fool because they use the same techniques as me.

When approaching new sets I get the convo started, and they try to freeze me out of the group, which is obnixious and the girls see this and my friends try to be the amog. I hate doing amog destroyers because it makes me look insecure so I'll fuel their fire in hopes that they can atleast number close the girl, and they fail, in the meantime they were a complete jackass to me.

What absolutely drives me insane is when a girl i've had sex with numerous times, she calls me everyday and my buddy says "i can tell this girl is into me, she's giving me ioi's, has she said anything about me to you" (i don't tell my friends which girls I've slept with, because for whatever reason they feel they need to get sloppy seconds and then spill their heart to the girl and if i ever want to talk to that girl again I would look like a fool for whatever my friends made up about me)

Sorry for the rant, seems like I should get some new friends or something...

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That's quite a situation you've got on your hands. I wouldn't take it personally though, guys develop routines and other guys mimic them it's the way of indirect pick-up. PUAs and people in general mimic success and they want to do it in the easist way possible.

Many AFCs also think they know what they're doing, get the "I've got this" mentality and then wonder why none of the girls are interested and will blame everything but themselves. Sounds like your friends are trying to suck off you rather than learn especially if they are going after your woman while you're trying to help them.

They are not appreciating your help.

- Chris

Obviously this would be a very irretating situation to be in and thankfully only 1 of my friends comes sarging with me, he has read the material as well so knows what he should be doing. However, if I were in your situation I would go and find a wing at a club or something, instead of using your friends all the time, you and this new wing could easily open up sets together and he wouldn't mimic you because he wouldn't necessarily know what you were doing - unlike your friends.

You need to introduce your friends to some meterial - e-books etc, so that they can step their game up and not be such leechers of your success.

- SC

I think it sounds like you need to talk to your friends about boundaries and decency and the difference between being a friend, being a wing, and being an ass.

Get talking with them, tell them what the role of the wing is, and the rules of a wing.

Or conversely blow them out of the water, and show them who's the man.

As soon as they try and jump in with a scripted indirect routine just interrupt them go direct and isolate the girl. Or go direct from day one.

Most of them won't know how to deal with an AMOG going direct on a girl their gaming. It'll knock them straight outta there.

Also, you could stop going out with them to pick up girls.

haha thats why you keep secrets and your personal knowledge and abilities in your own head. it makes people wonder what you are thinking about thta makes you so good. If you tell them, thers no surprise and everything you do can be counted and categorized as one of your stupid pickup techniques

Finally someone says what I had in mind.

Just talk to them. Tell them that it is not good practice to try to game on a girl you're gaming. Make it clear to them that doing so will result in some dire consequences.

I understand that you are trying to be nice and all, but in the end, you're sarging for yourself, and you need to keep those girls in sight.