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 Post subject: AMOG issue (must read).
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:52 pm 
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Well guys as you all know i am in high school . I shifted to a new highschool in 11th grade in a different city. I noticed the environment here is dominated by the physically tough guys (plus they are part of many school teams in sports and i am not) . My sarging (if i may call it so) is purely restricted to high school as currently my game is not that evolved to try day game at malls etc. and neither do i have the motivation because of my studies etc.
Initially i got into many fights and confrontations due to my adventurous sarging ventures because i did not understand the hierarchy at all that time. I managed to get a girlfriend but not for long. As for getting chics from other schools , I do not have many contacts that would get me access to the really hot ones. Now don't start telling me i should build my contacts because guys if i could, i would have by now.
To cut the long story short , whenever i try to flirt with a chic and no matter which way she takes it, word spreads to these AMOGs aka tough guys and I have to do as per their whims and fancies. What bugs me most is the fact that these guys can hit on the hottest chics and do whatever they want in the fukin skool no matter what anyone says whereas i can't (even when the chic is literally asking me to come to her bedroom , oh c'mon man!). As i am pretty much a new guy and in the last year of high school, this situation is very precarious for me and i do not know what to do. I want to be fearless and go for any chic i want without getting beaten up.
I need some practical suggestions.


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Its been said a million times, but high school game is all about social proof, its just the way things work at that age. The bad news is, if you are put into a not-popular category it will be somewhere between very hard and impossible to get out of there.

Though you seem to have the advantage of being a new guy, so you need to show what you've got, find a way to befriend the popular guys. Easiest way is sports, but you need to be good, so find another way.

Also you might want to consider day-game at malls, its not like its going to ruin your studies and it might actually be easier than sarging in high school without any social proof.


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Like the guy above said, HS = Social Proof.


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Like the guy above said, HS = Social Proof.
Unless u are hot, an amazing athlete or a porn star :) oh wait, then u would have social proof :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:59 pm 
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As for getting chics from other schools , I do not have many contacts that would get me access to the really hot ones. Now don't start telling me i should build my contacts because guys if i could, i would have by now.
Why do you need contacts in high school to get to the girls?
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Since the meat headed AFC's are blocking you from getting to the girls. I say go the friend route and make friends at school and then go in for the kill. As Diaz said you need social proof as that is basically what high school is all about.


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if im out sarging during the day like at a mall, target ,grocery store etc... and the girls bf shows up out of nowhere while im opening her and and gets defensive with me? whats the best way to handle it without looking like a chump or getting into a brawl?


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Its been said a million times, but high school game is all about social proof, its just the way things work at that age. The bad news is, if you are put into a not-popular category it will be somewhere between very hard and impossible to get out of there.
I wouldn't say its impossible to get out of there, but its a fuckload of work. Basically gravitate towards higher value people instead of nerds. Don't feel obligated to hang out with nerds because you have no friends, Its better to be a loner(people will think you have friends outside of school/You are mysterious) than a huge nerd. Don't get to down on yourself if you are not flooded with pussy in high school, its basically a learning ground for social dynamics. It only lasts a few years and you probably won't see most of those people again. High School is really over-rated anyways.

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 Post subject: Highschool is a Bitch
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Highschool is a bitch. I always felt frustrated in highschool because all the guys would amog me. I could never break out of the spell put on me freshman year because i was known as so afc. I still got a girls here and there but i was constantly put down and made to feel like shit. Now im in my summer before college and im working on my day game with a friend and things are so much better. Just some thought on highschool because my experience was bad.


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That is true but once your labeled in highschool its super hard to break out. Plus now that school is over there is no sense of popularity and yesterday i gamed one of the hot girls that i normally wouldnt have gotten with. People change and if you fuck up your freshman year your screwed for three more. Things are better now because of the game and ive pulled 4 girls in 3 weeks


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What you need is a social circle. And you are going to have to build it from the ground up. Are you much for martial arts, specifically the UFC/MMA styles? Because that would be a good place to start. Find a group of friends there, and you'll have protection + social proof.

You're going to have to become a Leader of Men before you start landing all the girls.

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My high school life sucks I use to get picked on all the time(not so much no more yes still in hs) I back down from so fights and it spread like an std. Even tho Im buff on the varsity team shit doesnt change girls dont take me seriously. And on top of that parents strict as hell stuck in the house sarge at the mall when I can but still goin up to a girl is still hard for me. I hate my childhood cant wait til college will be fresh start.


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The best way out is to :
a) think positively about your game.
b) be diplomatic
c) remember all girls may be prone to being influenced by their friends' opinions a lot but if they do get attracted to you , they cannot help themselves when they are around you.
d)keeping stuff secret regarding your relationship status is not impossible so long as u have a calm head to pacify the muscle heads and protect the lady.


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I hated school it was like every guy picked on me and they use to get the girls. So one day I bought a pair of telescopic nunchakus and hid them inside my jacket.

When the 2 kids followed me into the toilet to try and beat me up I pulled out my chucks smacked one of them in the jaw and he fell down on the ground bleeding the other guy ran away scared. I then beat the hell out of the guy on the floor broke his jaw it felt good the stupid fuck dared to be bully me.

From then on i got respect from the guys but my whole gaming with girls never improved.

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Highschool is a bitch. I always felt frustrated in highschool because all the guys would amog me. I could never break out of the spell put on me freshman year because i was known as so afc. I still got a girls here and there but i was constantly put down and made to feel like shit. Now im in my summer before college and im working on my day game with a friend and things are so much better. Just some thought on highschool because my experience was bad.


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Its been said a million times, but high school game is all about social proof, its just the way things work at that age. The bad news is, if you are put into a not-popular category it will be somewhere between very hard and impossible to get out of there.
I wouldn't say its impossible to get out of there, but its a fuckload of work. Basically gravitate towards higher value people instead of nerds. Don't feel obligated to hang out with nerds because you have no friends, Its better to be a loner(people will think you have friends outside of school/You are mysterious) than a huge nerd. Don't get to down on yourself if you are not flooded with pussy in high school, its basically a learning ground for social dynamics. It only lasts a few years and you probably won't see most of those people again. High School is really over-rated anyways.

no, this is not how you do it. I had a rough time in highschool. None of my social and personal change occurred until many years afterwards. However, I do know that the coolest and most well liked people in highschool are those that are part of EVERY crowd. Accept the geeks. Accept the nerds. Accept the druggies. Accept the punks, the mischievous ones, and last of all accept the jocks/knuckle draggers'. You need to be part of every circle.

Everyone says ignore them and they will stop. Or conform and they will stop. Or confront the situation and fight a continuous battle until you graduate (that was my preferred method). None of those is what you do.

Befriend them. Be NICE. When they approach you and are angry; inquire about their anger. Tell them you are new, not good at sports...but are always looking for interesting people to hang out with.

Nerds and geeks welcome people to their circle that have nerdy and geeky habits slash interests - so start playing a board game or a card game.

Druggies like people who don't NARC and that are really mellow - start nodding to them whenever they are around.

Punks like to be angry, so when you are around that social circle - show angst about a political, environmental, or humanitarian issue.

The stupid slut crowd likes hot guys - so start working out; not only are you improving your social acceptance, but you are improving your body for the future. I do gymnastics - you wouldn't believe how many highschool girls go to cheerleading class at the gymnasiums. Take up private lessons and socialize while you are there!

Meat heads, jocks, and knuckle draggers like to feel smart and important. Don't mock them, or be sarcastic; sincerely treat them like nice people and throw in lots of compliments. You will find out in about three years how far these types make it in life - gum sloshers are only good for casual hookups; and women know that. You have to break down their cocky wall though. So say a guy comes up to you and says "why you talking to mah bitch Christina?" And pushes you....? Reply with something along the lines of "I am sorry. There is no problem. I am new around here and have just been looking to hang out with new interesting people. I know we got off on a bad start....and I am not sure, since you are pushing me, but hi - my name is _____. I've seen you around in class. That was a really good question you asked. Anyway, what kind of things do you do outside of school?" Don't copy that, but absorb the attitude. If you push buttons like I did, you'll only get face punched. Compliment them. They are cocky because they don't have confidence; if you give them false confidence, they will feel like the cockiness is justified...and then maybe open an ear to you.


You are not pretending to be all these things. BECOME all these things. not only will you be well rounded, but your experiences will allow you to continue to be a social proofed person once college begins.

You only have a year, so don't worry too much. But if you are able to do this, you will be fine. And you will have a lot of fun.

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