Hi My PUA Brothers in Crime,

Just a quick question I was hoping to get your advice on.

Over the past 4 months, I've read through Mystery's stuff, Dave DeAngelo's stuff, Thundercat's stuff, Style's stuff, and Juggler's stuff, and have sarged on a regular basis to practice. Just one question.

I now know what my strengths are (eg. sarging in small social gatherings with a pivot) and what my weaknesses are (eg sarging in a large loud club with a bunch of strangers without a wing). But my impression is that in order to be a truly good Venusian Artist, you have to be really good at doing just that... sarging in a large, loud, club with a bunch of strangers SOLO!

Do you guys agree? How many of you guys actually had good success meeting reasonable quality women in these settings?

Thanks for your input.


Respectfully,

M

I definitely agree it is much harder to run game in a loud club solo. When I'm running solo you have to be a bit more selective, look for the girl(s) that are having a good time more centralized in the club. They'll be drinking well drinks etc. and will occasionally be looking around the room trying to find guys. These are your prime targets!
The upside to picking up a girl at a loud dance club is that once you actually get their attention and create an attraction it's much easier to move to A3-C1 because the girl will want to have a more intimate conversation with you in another area that is not quite so loud.

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I think going in a big place alone, with no wing, and no connections, and where nobody knows you is the game. You can sarge many ways, but from my point of view, those are the big leagues. Any success you have there is due to your tactics and intelligence, and not to any other factor.

Zenit

I agree with Zenit. The more you push yourself and challenge yourself, is the way you'll get good at gaming. No one in any of my immediate social groups sarges girls or is remotely good at it, decent - maybe. It feels good to know that when a target becomes attracted to you, it was due to your own efforts. All 100% of it.

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"This is your reality. It is what you make it"

Hey M just remember strangers are just friends you havnt met yet

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Gogo

Hello Brothers in Crime,

Thanks a lot for your responses. I found them really helpful. Indeed, I'll continue to try other venues as well. I'm actually working on an HB 8 and HB 10... both I met at work.

But I agree with you guys 100%... I gotta keep pushing the limits and sarging and in settings amongst strangers. As a matter of fact, that's my New Years resolution. When I'm good at that, I think that's when I can say I've progressed to the next level.


Respectfully,

M

You're not sarging the girl. You're sarging the room. Everyone you see in a club is a potential wing. If you see some dude sitting by himself doing nothing, go and approach him. Talk to him for a while. Gain some social proof from him and then merge your group with another. Then move to a different group for emissary work. Bring some people from the new group to your old group and vice versa. Work both groups for a while and THEN start working the girls. You've become the center of attention for both groups, you've got oodles of social proof, and you smell good (right?)

Sarging by yourself is not something you need to worry about. It's a chance to excersize some different game muscles and make some new friends. Pull numbers off the guys and you'll have someone to party with next Saturday. If those guys hang out with hot girls, even better.

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awesome post monkey, thanks.

I agree completely.

I decided to field test it, before i posted, so i'd have something to post about, and though i only got one field test out of it, it seemed to work fairly well.

I was at a party and I saw a better looking guy just chilling out by himself, so i went up, talked to him for awhile, and then went and met a 4-set that was outside smoking with him. it seems like most any guy is cool with meeting you, and after displaying a little social proof, just about any guy would love to go meet others/PU with you. works great when you don't have a wing. I'm still a beginning PUA, and i feel alot more comfortable with a wing, so this method is great for when i don't have one.

good luck sargin, fellas

interesting stuff guys......thanks.

In all honesty, I love going out alone...

I've still got some inner game work to do, and as such when I have friends with me I am more self conscious and afraid of striking out in front of them. None of my friends that are nearby are into pickup either.

Also, don't be afraid to let a girl know you came to a bar alone... I've had one of my female friends say that it makes you look confident (which is attractive, of course!).

Also, a good reply (as was noted above) is that "everyone here is a friend, I just haven't met them all yet". I love that.