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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:24 pm 
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Always the last one picked for kickball? Never get invites to the hottest parties? Blame Mom and Dad.

That's right, a new study says genes may influence whether or not you're popular. But DNA, or genetic material, shapes more than popularity, according to the research published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. It may also play a role in the number of friends we have—and whether we're integral or insignificant members of a social group.

Researchers from Harvard University and the University of California, San Diego, found that genes may be responsible for 46 percent of the variation (or difference) in how popular we are versus other people. Genetics exerts a similar effect on people's varying degrees of connectivity (for example, one person might know many of their friends' pals, but another person may not know any of their friends' other buddies.) And DNA has a significant, but lesser influence, on the difference between where one or another of us is located in a social network.

The scientists based their findings on data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, a study by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill of the influence of health on the social behavior of some 90,000 teens who researchers have been following since 1994. Using information on 552 pairs of twins in the study, the Harvard and U.C. San Diego researchers compared the lists of friends of identical twins with the social circles of same-sex fraternal twins. The networks described by the identical twins resembled one another more than those of the same-sex fraternal twins, suggesting a genetic influence on how people network socially. Twin study designs presume that if identical twins resemble each other more on some trait than fraternal twins do, then genes help explain that trait.

"Your social position in a network is not purely of your own making," study co-author Nicholas Christakis, a professor of sociology at Harvard University, tells ScientificAmerican.com. "In a very deep sense, our social life is predestined. It's predestined genetically.

"It's not the only explanation," he adds. "But there is a discernible and substantial role of genes in your social network position."

The study didn’t sort out which genes are enhancing or ruining our social lives. Michigan State University research published last year showed that a mutation in the serotonin receptor gene 5-HT2A was linked to variation in popularity. (Serotonin is a brain chemical that regulates mood, anxiety, depression, sleep and sexuality.) The new study examines the genetics of popularity with a wider lens, examining how much DNA may shape the way we socialize.

There may be evolutionary reasons for the variations in our social connectedness, Christakis says. While it may be advantageous to be in the center of a group when rumors are circulating, he says, you're better off being on its fringes if a disease—not gossip—is spreading. But the study didn’t explore who might benefit from being popular—and who may be lucky to be on the outs.

"We're a social species. We shouldn’t be surprised that some aspects of how we're social depends on genetics," Christakis says. "Just like other aspects of your personality of how assertive you are, how risk-averse you are, so does your predilection for having particular kinds of social network architectures" depend on genetics.


Reference Link: http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-sci ... 2009-01-26


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I think it comes down also on human nature too

everyone wants to be around good looking people, at school the newcomers who are beautiful are always well received by the popular nucleus while when a geek comes he's immediately categorized as not-good-enough, it ends being an excelence thing because from the start your way into socialization is made easy and naturally and it only gets better with time

and while this happens the geek may be generating traumas over traumas over this condition that appeared in his life, making 2 or 3 friends a year and barelly knowing anyone cause the guy ends not finding himself opened to people

happyness is an excelence thing also, people who are happy are interested, interesting, enjoy life as a whole, thus making theirselves more inteligent, will do at least some physycal activity, generally, start planning their lifes early, so of course they have a better life, are people that people want to be around

people that are, given the certain levels, miserable, sad, feel out of place, developt more bad habits, get stuck in dumb views, don't have much self-love, don't take much care of themselves, don't quite get the joy of life, get social awkward and aren't people that are valued as good company etc etc

don't know if you guys agree with me?


fun fact: I've been playing pro evolution soccer for some time already, I made a master league team with my brasilian team name and uniform, its good cause I open the game and play 1/2/3 games of 15 minutes, close it and does not affect my life, I started on easy because I didnt play well, then went to normal level with a new campaign with my same team and now Im on hard and I learned a lot of things on soccer
I don't do much physycal excercises, and I havent played soccer for a loong time, and all the last times I didnt play very well, being a dont-pass-the-ball-to player some times
I played yesterday and just by the understanding of the soccer as whole because of the game I played REALLY well(I also knew I could), I could use dribbles from the game like second nature, this because I tought about it, I understood it, now its mine... I guess I've been pulled off of the matrix

in fact, if I had the mentality I have today when younger(I played soccer when young, as every kid does in Brasil) my array of options in life would be enourmous, I certain I could be a professional player, or maybe I'd be doing mechatronics instead of programming, thats for sure

what I mean is, intelligence, happyness and love are perfection

Ill shut it now, getting a bit philosophical


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I think it comes down also on human nature too

everyone wants to be around good looking people, at school the newcomers who are beautiful are always well received by the popular nucleus while when a geek comes he's immediately categorized as not-good-enough, it ends being an excelence thing because from the start your way into socialization is made easy and naturally and it only gets better with time

and while this happens the geek may be generating traumas over traumas over this condition that appeared in his life, making 2 or 3 friends a year and barelly knowing anyone cause the guy ends not finding himself opened to people

happyness is an excelence thing also, people who are happy are interested, interesting, enjoy life as a whole, thus making theirselves more inteligent, will do at least some physycal activity, generally, start planning their lifes early, so of course they have a better life, are people that people want to be around

people that are, given the certain levels, miserable, sad, feel out of place, developt more bad habits, get stuck in dumb views, don't have much self-love, don't take much care of themselves, don't quite get the joy of life, get social awkward and aren't people that are valued as good company etc etc

don't know if you guys agree with me?
Yea, I agree with you. There are also other reasons why popularity may appear genetically determined.

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Its just a head start.
Good genes make you attractive so opposite sex like you. Then the same sex like you because they want to get with the opposite sex. Then you have to learn social skills.

Thats a very very basic breakdown. It could just be the first girl when you were 12 who had a crush on you thaat caused all the other girls to want you more which caused all the guys want to be with you. That 1 event might have changed how popular you are simply because the situation was brought to you rather than you having to go to the social situation.

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Nature nuture debate. No one will settle this on a PUA forum website I can assure you.

I reckon its a mix, of social programming and genes.

I suggest you crack down to 100s of years worth of arguments.

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V1V is bang on, it's a huge thing.

Gene's can give you confidence an "alpha" nature, but thats really bout it.

After that it's all nurture


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:13 am 
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Nature nuture debate. No one will settle this on a PUA forum website I can assure you.

I reckon its a mix, of social programming and genes.

I suggest you crack down to 100s of years worth of arguments.
I was thinking the same thing. As genes do help. But they can only do so much for you as your environment you grow up in is also a factor.


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