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Mann i meet impact last night @ arthouse!! LOL! the dude was wearing mysterys hat and was on fire!!!!!!!! I think he had a bad night with his friends that time! thats why he wrote this post! But anyway we were working the whole venue! in particular he had one hot brunette who wouldn’t get away from him! one make out he did and a isolation, i had to work his set being a wingman!! LMAO i ran out of shit to say but who cares, it was great to watch him get the chick!
Hah, "dude whered you get that hat from?, do you know my friend Mystery? ?" Very nice opener
Quote: besides him being a natural/lucky bastard Razz
from what i understood is that he didn’t really look out for girls..i mean his eye didn’t even wonder so that could've made him look extremely NOT needy so perhaps attraction #1 and two it seems like he was the centre of attention between you guys..alpha male style so attraction #2. lastly he seemed to know the VIP places which means he has quite a social person, with the ability to create rappor and comfort covering excellent body language attraction #3..together that creates quite an attractive package to women..
i see your point and i agree its annoying though Evil or Very Mad Embarrassed Laughing fuckerz lol
Yeah, there are few naturals man, but if you see them in field, its even mind boggeling to me! Its alot of things that they do that are really good. I've been in this game for just over a year, and I havn't really concentrated on night game, so when I saw him in action, he didn’t do anything and he had women coming all over, it totally blew me away! Simple because I’ve done so much day game and was completely un-calibrated for night game! Its a different thing’s with night game its perception. All you have to do is fake a good time, but really feel it, jump around go nuts, go crazy, and dont give a shit about anyone, and at the same time talk to everyone, and women just come up to you man! especially when you open several sets with chicks in them, and they laugh at your jokes! It feels and seems almost impossible to figure out, but it makes perfect logical sence. There is a calibratory process that I do now when i go into night game which helps alot.
Peacocking helps too, if your different you will be opened, it doesn’t have to be tidy and pretty, it can be ugly with a massive mohawk, and you’ll still get opened. Don't dress like the usual metro sexual males in the city, everyone with the collard shirts, tennis tops so on.
Direct game isn’t really necessary, not as much as it is in day game. See in day game its all by the book, you go, you open, you smile, neg, so on, its all by the book, fake rappor, quallify, so on. Night game, nah, you go and open every set, demonstrate some value, hi 5 everyone move along, move around, you don’t stay and game that one set directly, especially if its a loud venue! you will come back to them or they will come to you when they notice your having fun and being genuine. They will asses you while your away, look at you and talk amongst their friends, be like he’s short, or tall, he’s bald whatever, and they’ll come back and be like,
"You know your kinda skinny"
as like a shit test or something, and your like thanks, but wait till i take off my pants different story and there you go, some funny shit, you make her laugh, the difficult part is really isolation. If you want the girl you have to isolate her.
Just like in day game, the bridge for a date is the isolation not the close. Its the slight comfort building that you do before you leave that gets your second date. My experience anyway, i had some pua argue with me last weekend, but none of his sets became dates and all of mine did so *pulls the middle finger*.
Look if anyone has questions and is having problems, just PM me, regarding the transition process. it was very tough for me from day game to night game. Its totally different, not harder or easier, and those are my genuine words on the subject.
Quote: Naturals are typically alpha because they align with people who have weaker frames then them...they get surrounded by followers and they lead them. That may sound negative but its not.
Perceived lower value individuals, yeah Ka your right on it! In other words, the tough guys that get the girls are surrounded by dudes who don’t look as tough who are looking up to them and following them.
Quote: It's all down to congruent body language, that is it. humans were mating long before the invention of language, cloths or even makeup and haircuts. Body language is so powerful it can give you control the moment you step into a room.
The more important point is not keeping confident body language, but rather keeping it congruent.
Yeah but body language is elementary man, thanks for the advice but I'm not a newbie I hope that wasn't a neg *looks at you with squinting*
Quote: There are methods attempting to teach people how to become naturals, as KA's current thread talks about. Sounds like that dude did exactly what is talked about in that thread. What methods do you use? You may want to try to implement some of the techniques from 'natural' methods into your game, it would help I think. I'm by no means saying your a bad PUA, just that it seems you want to not have to work as much. Social proof is key.
There is no way, no way! I would review someone elses material! I can berley stand watching or reading any of the official material/books! All that stuff is internalised, i simply calibrate to what i know, and figure out the answers for myself. And I also don't want to taint my knowledge with someone elses, and principles. I think Ka is cool, he has good points, and my respect, i will probably chuck him a live interview along side with Monkey, XF, Ryan, and a few others on here!
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I used to think maybe it was something physcial...like they found him attractive bc of looks....then a bit later i realized i have guy friends who are much more attractive (no homo) that dont do as well, at which point i just assumed he "had it" and others didnt.
Now i understand the underlying dynamics of it. When i go out with him i can bring that world of his crashing down very easily...he cant compete because i know how to take that power away from him. Ive done it on multiple occasions. I can counter him by simply making sure he gets the worst seat at a table or by AMOG'in him properly, among other ways...
Use your friend as a model for setting up your social life, look at how he conducts himself...but stick to the PUA knowledge you have and eventually when you build up your social network the way he has you'll achieve the same.
Solid advice again. It's right on! I have to admit when i wrote this post, i hermited for about 3 days, not talking to anyone, not going on my computer, just sitting and thinking! Then went out again, dressed differently, conducted myself differently, got the results! I'm almost about to say night game is alot easier then day game, but considering its very noisy and its crazy, some people freak out. We are still evolving as a race so its good to say its about the same diffilculty.
The sitting position all that, yeah. Even as small as you and your friends are dressed the same, and he is dressed differently, the slightest things man. I think a cool way of summing it up would be
Day game
No one is looking to get laid, it takes effort, its rewarding when it works, and the girl is up for it, if your presenting yourself well, laid back chilled, having fun, doing something aside from looking to ride her clit, altho she doesn’t mind that either . Its by the book to the letter!
If your good with direct game, youd be great at day game! Especially if you like to walk for hours and check out stuff, have fun!
Night Game
Everyone is out to fuck, meet people have a good time, especially in the hardcore venues, but, they want someone decent not regular. Probably because they’ve fucked everyone who is regular and it didn’t lead them to what they want in life. They are alot more exposed, and their instincts kick in, weather it be quick rapport building instincts or fear or whatever! Feelings and emotions are amplified, at the same time, what you say and your game has now come down 4 levels, its easier!
If you can overcome your initial fears that we all have and get in a talkative state and a fun, i wanna enjoy myself state, and your good at building quick rappor and great at instant calibration, and yelling to the very top of your loungs and beyond, then youll be great at night game.
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