This situation is pretty confusing to me so hopefully the more experienced members here can help me out. The girl in question is the one that I have seen a few times before. Here's a really short backstory: Girl works at subway at walmart. I get groceries then eat at subway every sunday so we know each other from those meetings. Third time I saw her, I talk to her and got IOIs. Asked about them on this forum and members confirmed that she's interested. We had set up a "date" where she would help me grocery shopping next time I see her. I show up at subway the following sunday and she wasn't there (later told me she went home for Easter). Show up this past wednesday and saw her there unexpectedly. Also, I think it's worth mentioning that this girl has a boyfriend (looked her up on myspace), but she hasn't told me at all. She doesn't know that I know she has a boyfriend.

Here's what happened on wednesday: She was playful. There was a mirror in our cart and she kept teasing saying it was mine. Said she thought it was mine because I was conceited. Physically flirting when I was paying. Randomly says I'm trouble (says this with a playful smile). Told me she'd help me shopping today (sunday).

So today I go to walmart and stop by subway. I tell her to come help me and she looked busy. She said "one second." I didn't want to look needy so I went and got a cart and started shopping. 5 minutes and she hasn't come out yet. I came back and she asked where I went and she told me she couldn't take a break until her coworker came back. We finally start shopping and start at the produce section. She stands very close to me so that her body is touching me while we were picking out fruit and vegetables. We go to the frozen food section and she touches my face and says "there was soemthing on it." I took this as an IOI, but could also be a neg towards me.

She started off playful, but after a while she started walking a pretty good distance ahead of me. I didn't want to always be following her, so I occassionally walked away and she brought the cart back to me a few times. When she was close to me, she accidentally touched me around the front of my hip. I'm pretty sure it was genuinely accidental since she looked as if she was trying to touch me arm while I was moving, and she apologized by saying "I didn't mean to do that." Not sure if this can be taken as an IOI or an IOD. I ignored it all together and didn't say anything since it was very light contact.

While she has never mentioned her boyfriend before and even today, she never asked if I had a girlfriend either. She asked for my age though (she asked 2 weeks ago, but I never told her) and I made her guess today and finally told her when she got it wrong. At this time we had probably been shopping for 35-40 minutes and she told me we had to hurry up since she had to get back to work. She said she didn't want her coworker to get mad at her. Could I take this as an IOD or was this completely due to her being at work and not wanting to get in trouble? After 10 minutes, we had gone through all the aisles and she says she has to get back to work, but tells me to stop by and get subway after I had paid.

I continue shopping for a little bit and pay. I stop by and order something and while she's maknig the sandwich, I run the 3 smiles routine. She seemed to like it and was asking about the 4th smile when I left the thread open and talked about something else. As I was about to sit down, she asks me what her 4th smile is and I tell her to come sit down with me. She finishes up with a customer and comes to where I'm sitting. We talk for a while and I tell her her 4th smile and she seemed to be flattered by it. The thing is, she was standing the whole time and when I told her to sit down, she refused.

A lot more talking happened and she continued to stand, soemtimes going behind the counter to take care of customers and then coming back out to talk. A friend of her comes and she comes to talk to her and she introduces me. her friend is sitting one table over so when the HB goes back behind the counter, I talk to her friend and I ask her if the HB is a troublemaker. We both laugh and look at the HB and she asks what we were laughing about. HB comes back out and talks to her friend while I'm back at my table eating. Friend asks HB how she knows me and she replies by saying "just some guy that comes here. i'm friendly with all guys that come in here." Friend says "are you that friendly with everyone?" HB replies with, "yeah." I thought this was a huge IOD because she said it in a normal volume and didn't try to hide it from me. I'm not sure if she said it so that I would hear it on purpose, but I did hear it pretty clearly.

I talk to them some more and I try to move her by grabbing her above her elbow. She moves away and says "no." Another huge IOD. The thing that's confusing is that whenever I would call her over, she would come. My friend thinks that this is due to the fact that she's working. He also thinks that she didn't want to sit down because she was at work. I'm not sure about this.

Finally, when I was about to leave, I call her over and say, "what's the ebst way to get a hold of you"(I should've done this earlier, but didn't get the opportunity). She says "calling or texting me" and she gives me her number. We talk for a little bit more, but since there was a line forming, she was rocking her body like she needed to get back to work. I leave and that's that.


I know this was a huge post, but I wanted to take care of all the details. I want to know if you guys think this girl is interested or not. It seemed to start off really well with a lot of kino from her and a little from me. Towards the end though, it seemed like I got IODs.

Also, I want to know how long I should wait to call her (the standard 2 days?) and what I should say. I want to get her out of subway/walmart because her being at work really makes it complicated.

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Lol don't listen to him. It's actually quite straightforward.

Whenever she was playing with you when you guys were shopping and you didn't respond, she took it has a major IOD. You need to stop thinking every time this HB does something nice to you, there's a bad motive behind it.

She initiated kino and she was waiting for you to respond and you didn't, that's why she started getting cold. Learn to flirt back.

Setup a day 3, and show her how fun and interesting you are.

I actually just realized a big mistake I made that might've made her move away. After we left the frozen foods section, we went to the next aisle and she was pushing me forward by touching my lower back. I was going to use mystery's "hands off, this shit isn't free" line, but all I said was hands off. Since she was behind me, I bet she didn't see me smiling. I think that might've been the point where she distanced herself.

How should I go about setting up a Day 3? Phone game is pretty new to me. Also, I appreciate you guys reading the huge wall of text.

Lol I don't know about everyone else, but I like reading huge posts. It's a sign that you are clearly trying to analyze everything that happened, atleast to me.

Yeah, you showed, or at least in her eyes, a massive amount of IODs.

For phone game, it's really easy. It's mostly about push/pulls and being C&F.

Look around the forum for tutorials on it. Type in the search phone game help or something and see what you come up with it.

Gotcha. Any specific insight on when she was talking to her friend and commented on how i'm "just some guy that comes in regularly" or something along those lines. It seemed like a huge IOD or it could be that her friend knows that she has a boyfriend and she didn't want to appear to be flirting with another guy. The thing is, when I made small talk with her friend, she said she didn't know her from school and that they only saw each other at work. I'm having doubts on whether or not the friend knew that the HB had a boyfriend.

I'm probably looking into that too much, but it just seemed like a huge IOD that coud have been a sign that the attraction was pretty much gone.

Meh, the fact that they were talking about you is an IOI in itself.

Honestly, in my mind, maybe she was just mad and was trying to get back at you. Whether or not it had a significance, it's not going to change the fact that you have better run some game on her fast and tight else she'll just go even colder

Good stuff man. I guess I have a couples of sticking points; staying in A2 too long and being afraid of initiating anything fearing that she'll mention her boyfriend. Day 3 should be much better.